I feel that my not having watched a ton of old-school Law and Order is actually helpful in these situations, because to me this episode was interesting and sad-making and not, you know, derivative. (The ending! BOYS. ;_;)
MATT SUCKS AT BEING A COVERT SPY IN A PARKING GARAGE.
HE REALLY DOES.
Also, I spent a good five minutes during this wondering if my off-hand remark last week that Brooks and Natalie seem to have ~history~ would come to fruition, that I'm almost kind of sad when it didn't come true.
Now that we've had that conversation, I think I'm probably going to be seeing that even if it isn't there. *SIGH*
Something I really like, btw? The Cops and the Lawyers on here are rather remarkably protective of/connected to each other (like, when George points out that clearing Ronnie is not actually their main goal here, James and Alesha are having none of that), which is a dynamic I don't really get from any of the other shows.
I feel that my not having watched a ton of old-school Law and Order is actually helpful in these situations
(It was a Jamie-era episode. I started watching L&O first run during the Jamie era [the only thing past 10pm I was allowed to watch, because it was ~educational~. lol, parents]! That is - yeah. It probably is helpful.) I mean, it was right down to Lennie/Brooks both saying, "So - can we do this my way now?" that's how bad for me it was. Like, it was BEAT FOR BEAT in some situations. Which, I think, almost made me sad that the affair ended up being a random instead of, you know, HARRIET WALTER, since I spent an entire instant of "!!!! OMG" wondering if the show would actually go there - thus collapsing characterization onto itself, sort of, but yet making it distinct. AND YET. It stuck to the source material.
THAT BEING SAID, I think Matt got a lot more development than the original (with Curtis). SO THERE IS THAT.
which is a dynamic I don't really get from any of the other showsThis! Although - and I think this is why I feel
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I like that the UK version's spin on The Formula is to make it more of an ensemble drama with character development and stuff. No one's staying in their little half-hour boxes anymore!
You have seen the full oeuvre of the Jack/Claire S5/S6 era, RIGHT? Right?
Um, no. The first season of original Law and Order I actually made a point of watching was...um (*googles*) S16.*
Yes. (However. It's entirely possible I *did* watch earlier seasons, and just don't remember them, like with the first season of Homicide and [I'm pretty sure] several seasons of Star Trek: TNG.)
*LOL, season sixteen! You know, I used to think these shows could not possibly be on forever, and then I read this NY Times article, and...yeah. Law and Order: the franchise that will never, ever die.
Now I want to do meta even more now. Because the thing that I think that I'm clinging to about L&O UK - and the thing that you recognize - is that, in its way, it's the old L&O. Like, for example, Season 8 has ACTUAL STORY LINES. There's Jack's alcoholic post-Claire haze of prosecutorial misconduct (nearly! gets! fired!); Van Buren sues the department because she doesn't get promoted, and everyone suffers the consequences; Jamie has custody of her kid woes. If anything L&O UK reminds me of L&O S8 hardcore.
I mean. The episode where Claire dies? End of S6? It's... AN HONEST TO GOD CHARACTER PIECE. There isn't a case. There isn't a murder of any kind (except by the state)! It's... a character piece about characters reacting to witnessing an execution, and then Benjamin Bratt sleeps with Jennifer Garner. IT HAPPENS.
I am not kidding. Season 5 - Season 8? Worth. It. So damned worth it.
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If anything, I feel that ENGLAND is where I choose to lay my blame now.
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MATT SUCKS AT BEING A COVERT SPY IN A PARKING GARAGE.
HE REALLY DOES.
Also, I spent a good five minutes during this wondering if my off-hand remark last week that Brooks and Natalie seem to have ~history~ would come to fruition, that I'm almost kind of sad when it didn't come true.
Now that we've had that conversation, I think I'm probably going to be seeing that even if it isn't there. *SIGH*
Something I really like, btw? The Cops and the Lawyers on here are rather remarkably protective of/connected to each other (like, when George points out that clearing Ronnie is not actually their main goal here, James and Alesha are having none of that), which is a dynamic I don't really get from any of the other shows.
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(It was a Jamie-era episode. I started watching L&O first run during the Jamie era [the only thing past 10pm I was allowed to watch, because it was ~educational~. lol, parents]! That is - yeah. It probably is helpful.) I mean, it was right down to Lennie/Brooks both saying, "So - can we do this my way now?" that's how bad for me it was. Like, it was BEAT FOR BEAT in some situations. Which, I think, almost made me sad that the affair ended up being a random instead of, you know, HARRIET WALTER, since I spent an entire instant of "!!!! OMG" wondering if the show would actually go there - thus collapsing characterization onto itself, sort of, but yet making it distinct. AND YET. It stuck to the source material.
THAT BEING SAID, I think Matt got a lot more development than the original (with Curtis). SO THERE IS THAT.
which is a dynamic I don't really get from any of the other showsThis! Although - and I think this is why I feel ( ... )
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You have seen the full oeuvre of the Jack/Claire S5/S6 era, RIGHT? Right?
Um, no. The first season of original Law and Order I actually made a point of watching was...um (*googles*) S16.*
Yes. (However. It's entirely possible I *did* watch earlier seasons, and just don't remember them, like with the first season of Homicide and [I'm pretty sure] several seasons of Star Trek: TNG.)
*LOL, season sixteen! You know, I used to think these shows could not possibly be on forever, and then I read this NY Times article, and...yeah. Law and Order: the franchise that will never, ever die.
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Now I want to do meta even more now. Because the thing that I think that I'm clinging to about L&O UK - and the thing that you recognize - is that, in its way, it's the old L&O. Like, for example, Season 8 has ACTUAL STORY LINES. There's Jack's alcoholic post-Claire haze of prosecutorial misconduct (nearly! gets! fired!); Van Buren sues the department because she doesn't get promoted, and everyone suffers the consequences; Jamie has custody of her kid woes. If anything L&O UK reminds me of L&O S8 hardcore.
I mean. The episode where Claire dies? End of S6? It's... AN HONEST TO GOD CHARACTER PIECE. There isn't a case. There isn't a murder of any kind (except by the state)! It's... a character piece about characters reacting to witnessing an execution, and then Benjamin Bratt sleeps with Jennifer Garner. IT HAPPENS.
I am not kidding. Season 5 - Season 8? Worth. It. So damned worth it.
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