I've always thought of LaCE as being an ideal - like the Roman Catholic thing of no divorce etc., because enough of Tolkien's elves met with 'ill chance or strange fate'.
Yes, I've always thought of it from the perspective of being appointed to write about my society/culture in such a way that it looks favorable.
I wouldn't write about all the crime. I wouldn't write about discrimation and persecution. I wouldn't write about AIDS and cancer and the (health insurance and tobacco) companies that don't mind if people die if they make a profit, nor would I write about poverty and the people it disproportionately affects.
I'd write about "liberty and justice for all" and "all [people] created equal." I'd write about a society that provides peaceful outlets for conflict resolution that used to be taken out in the street, in duels.
(I certainly wouldn't write about the bureaucratic red tape that prevents such "outlets" from being fully used!)
This is my take on LaCe :) I'm glad to have a self-titled canatic backing it! ;D
It'd be interesting to see what an advert for modern western society looked like - would we be able to recognise it?
I think 'canon-fanatic' as opposed to 'canon-nazi'. My fanaticism mostly applies to my own writing - I like all my fics to fit in with at least one version of LoTR or a Silmarillion.
It'd be interesting to see what an advert for modern western society looked like - would we be able to recognise it?
Heh heh. Probably not. I'm just as interested, though, in seeing what a history book from the year 2105 says about these heady times....
My fanaticism mostly applies to my own writing....
That is commendable, I think. I tend to be a mechanics-nazi (mechanatic?) but I find it improper to correct other people's grammar unless they ask me to do it.
I correct my own, though, in mid-sentence, which annoys even me! ;D
what a history book from the year 2105 says about these heady times....
All you have to do is wait around long enough to find out! Although you might end up with a nostalgic attitude like most old folks tend to have - you know, the "it wasn't like that in my day" thing.
This is one of the issues in this story, actually.
The Sil and bits of HoMe are credited to either Rumil or Pengolodh. Rumil stayed in Tirion and was loyal to Finarfin; Pengolodh served Turgon, who hated the Feanorians.
I have read that Pengolodh was born in Middle-earth. If Rumil didn't go to ME, then there is a big blank in the Feanorians' history that might just be the first gap-filler fan fiction! (If you take the Sil as a historical text, that is.)
Either way, I don't think either is going to be prone to writing nicely about my favorite Elves. (And one might get into some pretty heavy trouble even if he did....)
Rumil, by remaining in Tirion with Finarfin, would seem to be disapproving of the whole idea of rebellion and/or supportive of the Valar, neither of which suggests he'd be endeared to the Feanorians.
Pengolodh worked for Turgon. Turgon hated the Feanorians for his wife's death. I wouldn't want to be around when King Turgon read Pengolodh's account of how daddy-Fingolfin may have gotten his just desserts for being a whiny brat....
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Yes, I've always thought of it from the perspective of being appointed to write about my society/culture in such a way that it looks favorable.
I wouldn't write about all the crime. I wouldn't write about discrimation and persecution. I wouldn't write about AIDS and cancer and the (health insurance and tobacco) companies that don't mind if people die if they make a profit, nor would I write about poverty and the people it disproportionately affects.
I'd write about "liberty and justice for all" and "all [people] created equal." I'd write about a society that provides peaceful outlets for conflict resolution that used to be taken out in the street, in duels.
(I certainly wouldn't write about the bureaucratic red tape that prevents such "outlets" from being fully used!)
This is my take on LaCe :) I'm glad to have a self-titled canatic backing it! ;D
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I think 'canon-fanatic' as opposed to 'canon-nazi'. My fanaticism mostly applies to my own writing - I like all my fics to fit in with at least one version of LoTR or a Silmarillion.
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Heh heh. Probably not. I'm just as interested, though, in seeing what a history book from the year 2105 says about these heady times....
My fanaticism mostly applies to my own writing....
That is commendable, I think. I tend to be a mechanics-nazi (mechanatic?) but I find it improper to correct other people's grammar unless they ask me to do it.
I correct my own, though, in mid-sentence, which annoys even me! ;D
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All you have to do is wait around long enough to find out! Although you might end up with a nostalgic attitude like most old folks tend to have - you know, the "it wasn't like that in my day" thing.
I correct my own, though, in mid-sentence
That's a habit I acquired from my sister.
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Which is the best bit! I love his explanations about the hobbits' real names and the actual Westron language.
And there are notes to go with LaCE for example that indicate that this text was written by a man, and not an elf...
Also good fun. Although all the preambles in 'Lost Tales' irritated me slightly - I wanted to get on with reading the story!
I just realised that you are the JunoMagic on FF.net, who wrote 'Lothiriel'. A friend recommended it, and it's on my to-read list for a rainy weekend.
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This is something that I am depending on for one of my WIPs.
would he maybe lie?
I can see that as an exam question: Consider the reliability of Aelfwine as a source.
If you ever get round to reading Lothy, let me know what you think about my monster!
Will do! 107 chapters, though. That's got to be one of the longest fics ever!
I have 'friended' you - I hope you don't mind.
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The Sil and bits of HoMe are credited to either Rumil or Pengolodh. Rumil stayed in Tirion and was loyal to Finarfin; Pengolodh served Turgon, who hated the Feanorians.
I have read that Pengolodh was born in Middle-earth. If Rumil didn't go to ME, then there is a big blank in the Feanorians' history that might just be the first gap-filler fan fiction! (If you take the Sil as a historical text, that is.)
Either way, I don't think either is going to be prone to writing nicely about my favorite Elves. (And one might get into some pretty heavy trouble even if he did....)
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My temptation as a writer would be too make them *less* evil and thus (IMHO) more complicated, but who am I to question JRRT? :)
Besides, we all know of my affinity for complicated characters--it's what sparked this discussion after all! ;D
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Pengolodh worked for Turgon. Turgon hated the Feanorians for his wife's death. I wouldn't want to be around when King Turgon read Pengolodh's account of how daddy-Fingolfin may have gotten his just desserts for being a whiny brat....
Sorry, day's ending...getting slap-happy :D
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