The Puppy in the Room

Apr 09, 2015 10:29


You know I'm still processing my thoughts on all of this, but I have been helped greatly by reading some of George RR Martin's thoughts.  And also looking at some of the general stuff going around.  Rather than do a link salad, because there are LOTS of links I wanted to dump my thoughts.

First off: I like puppies.  I have puppies and love them to ( Read more... )

sadpuppies, hugos

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kevin_standlee April 9 2015, 17:50:15 UTC
I'm glad to hear from you on this subject, and I'm glad that it aroused you to buy your Worldcon membership.

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autopope April 9 2015, 18:17:54 UTC
ButButBut ... don't you know it's all about ethics in games journalism?!?

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daveon April 9 2015, 18:23:04 UTC
Oh? Stooopid me, because I was thought it was about feeling upset because you got dumped by your girlfriend... see, I just don't understand this stuff do I?

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bovil April 9 2015, 18:28:19 UTC
This started because Larry Correia won a Campbell, went to a Worldcon and didn't get treated with the respect he deserved and he thought people mocked him for his politics and his religion.

He lost to Lev Grossman, but I believe did reasonably well in the voting.

I'm not sure he got mocked, he probably just wasn't fawned over to his satisfaction. After all, he's a shrinking violet who has to wear "asshole" as armor to protect himself.

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daveon April 9 2015, 19:08:11 UTC
He has said he thought people were mocking him for both his politics and his religion.

I'm still not sure about Brad Torgesson who appears to be a perfect Sealion in pretty much every comments thread where I've bumped up against him. But, that said, the Sad Puppies slate didn't actually win.

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chris_gerrib April 9 2015, 19:30:02 UTC
What amazes me about both Torgersen and Corriea (in particular) and the modern American conservative (in general) is their inability to be criticized. If I say an idea is wrong, that is taken to be a "two minute hate" and a personal attack on them. Christ on a stick, man up!

/end rant/

Torgersen really gets me in that regard. He's in the Army, and unless things have changed beyond recognition, he has had to been on the receiving end of a few epic ass-chewings.

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daveon April 9 2015, 19:46:11 UTC
Yes, see my comment on your related thread. It is astounding to me that modern conservatives are so upset and put out because they aren't being treated like the special little snowflakes they apparently are.

To paraphrase Terry Pratchett, why don't you go home and roll about in your money and get over it, which based on the numbers I see for Larry Correia's sales is most certainly the case.

What happened to the virtues of self reliance, self determination, self validation... especially for the fucking Libertarians - isn't that their bloody creed.

I thought the whiny bloggers complaining about not being represented was bad enough, but at least they did something - this is a childish tantrum. Then again, look at Rand Paul yesterday getting all upset because they wanted to make him explain why he's changed his mind so many times.

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daveon April 9 2015, 19:47:21 UTC
Brad is military? Seriously? Didn't know that.

So does he get belligerent and whiny when a senior officer gives him a dressing down? I rather suspect not.

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chris_gerrib April 9 2015, 20:02:55 UTC
He's a Warrant Officer in the Army Reserve. I think he's something in IT, based on his day job (IT at a hospital). But this is all second- and third- hand.

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wendyzski April 9 2015, 20:06:27 UTC
Ask George RR Martin or Terry Pratchett, a man so overlooked by Worldcon Fandom he was only a Guest of Honour….

Terry Pratchett was nominated for a Hugo and declined the nomination

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daveon April 9 2015, 20:33:08 UTC
Yes I know, I just felt that the fact he was a guest of honour at the convention was a MUCH bigger thing for him than an award.

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bovil April 9 2015, 23:39:43 UTC
There are far fewer Worldcon Guests of Honor than there are Hugo winners. Though GoH doesn't come with a trophy.

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daveon April 10 2015, 03:03:30 UTC
That was the impression I got on the subject.

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