Comments | darklotus1211: Tartan vs Plaid

darklotus1211

Tartan vs Plaid

Feb 22, 2012 12:20

This may interest those of you who are interested in textiles and the history of same.

I came across these rather fascinating (to me anyway) bits of information after just reading a fan fic that described Minerva McGonagall's wardrobe as consisting of 'tartan plaid'. I was listening to a bit of Scottish folk music today too, so, being in that frame ( Read more... )

pics, i'm a tart, yummy men, interesting diversion

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raettawy February 22 2012, 01:41:57 UTC

merp (which is a cross between an urp and a meep). gurgle. thud.

Gerard Butler in that photo is... uh...
(what movie is that?!) Between that photo and him as Leonidas in 300... whew...

And Liam...well... if I was taken, he could come find me.

darklotus1211 February 22 2012, 08:12:36 UTC

I don't know what movie or miniseries that pic of Gerard is from, but let me tell you... I'm going to find out!!! When I do, I'll let you know!

And Liam Neeson - well, you said it all.

There's something about a manly man in a kilt, isn't there? Especially those two.

I really am going to print that one of Gerard Butler up and pant over it in true teen style - I'm hopeless.

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darklotus1211 February 22 2012, 08:16:25 UTC

Yes, I think that's part of the appeal of a kilt - I can never help but wonder if a man is 'authentic' or not. I always feel a bit naughty, but I can't help it.

I love tartan too, there's just something about it...

raettawy February 23 2012, 01:41:14 UTC

I think that *ALL* of the girls -full stop-want to know if a man is a real Scot or not when they are wearing a kilt. Or maybe I'm just happen to know a lot of naughty chicks, myself included, in my life? lol.

raettawy February 23 2012, 01:37:29 UTC

(muttering...stupid LJ and the preview button too close to the submit button and those stupid, worthless 1980s computer language codes ( ... )

darklotus1211 February 23 2012, 05:54:47 UTC

Thanks for doing the research! It's a disappointment that the movie that mouthwatering still is taken from has been shelved though isn't it? :(

I have Attila and 300, but I'll have to hunt up Beowulf & Grendel - I hope it's a better production than Attila - not awful, but if it weren't for the inspiring view, it would be a bit of a yawn.

I liked 300 though - a great stylised version of the graphic novel that they based it on.

I liked Sin City too for the same reason.

You weren't alone in imagining Lucius in a kilt, believe me!

As to them threatening us with underwear:

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raettawy February 23 2012, 13:19:42 UTC

Snicker. Always wear your underwear...not. hehehe...

I am still a little confused as to why they would use Julia Stiles (I mean...huh....right...).

Ahh...sword & sandals movies are always a good thing- mostly. I did quite enjoy 300 & I even managed to put aside my historical biases- probably *because* the movie was based on a graphica novel. (I've been to historical site, and, I have to admit, I rather hoped that Leonidas looked like Butler - I'm sure the real king would be horrified by us & and would lecture us to death about duty, Greece, and the Persians). Troy, & and its wild inaccuracies, induces a white, hot anger in me that no amount of men in tunics can appease.

darklotus1211 February 23 2012, 14:57:25 UTC

YAY! A fellow Troy hater! I honestly don't understand how it was such a blockbuster, even if you put aside the twaddle. It annoyed me, and so I can understand how you must have felt considering your field of study ( ... )

celestialbeing1 February 23 2012, 03:26:58 UTC

OH help me, writing my AiW fic I learned soooo much about Scotsmen and the kilts and their attire and oh my jeebus....

I found lots of yummy eye candy along the way too!

darklotus1211 February 23 2012, 16:33:54 UTC

I'm sure you did! There are some very tasty Scotsmen out there! I really do find most Scotsmen can be charming bastards when they want to be. I'm sure most Scotswomen see right through them, and can tell the good eggs from the bad, and shake their heads at our gullibility, but we Sassenach females are putty in their hands!

I've known quite a few Scots in my time, and even the ones I know are nasty buggers can be charming when the mood takes them.

celestialbeing1 February 26 2012, 22:13:26 UTC

I haven't met any!!!!
Dammit. It's fun being charmed.

quaffswinegaily February 24 2012, 09:13:12 UTC

And here comes the Scot weighing in with her tuppence-worth.
What's worn under a Scotsman's kilt? Nothing... It's all in good working order... (Usually followed by a lift of the front of the kilt to demonstrate the functioning parts.)
Plaid is the length of fabric, now usually used as the over the shoulder plaid for men, or shawl for women, previously used to make up the whole kilt by pleating, belting and draping the end over the shoulder.
Tartan is the fabric and the pattern. Tartan's are now clan/family specific, but this is quite a modern concept.
My tartan is the Douglas, a clan who were of similar influence to the Stuarts, but never quite made the grade. The Douglas motto is 'Jamais en arriere'... never behind / never last... A reasonable to motto to live by.

darklotus1211 February 24 2012, 10:52:08 UTC

Thank you for the info quaffie! I'd imagine different tartans would have been more indicative of regions rather than families originally ( ... )

quaffswinegaily February 24 2012, 11:16:47 UTC

The great kilt was the one they used to wear, made of one large piece of fabric which could be worn short and pleated for everyday wear, or wrapped around you at night to keep you warm, a very versatile piece of apparel. Even a modern kilt has yards of fabric, and is a heavy garment, which is why it sits so beautifully and swings when you walk.
My choice of tartan is Ancient Green Douglas. I have a relative known as Black Douglas, so none of us were allowed to wear Black Douglas, because he was a bit of a black sheep of the family.
The boys love wearing the kilt. Very liberating, so I'm told. And the girls love them in it. It's a real chick magnet.