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dante_kent

3x10 Reaction Post, Because I Literally Cannot Help Myself

Jan 06, 2012 05:08

I always knew a day would come when I would crack under the pressure of all my flailing and just write a recap post. Apparently today is that day.

( BEWARE. This is long and flail-y and ridiculous. Of course. )

this show owns my heart, tvd, the vampire diaries, episode reaction post!

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waltzmatildah January 6 2012, 13:20:56 UTC

Jesus!! I think you've pretty much said all the things here!

Also, for once, I disagree with you so hard on so much of this! HAHAHA! Clearly Rebekah wasn't in this enough for us to have things (like side plaits!) to flail over (incidently, I did agree with you on the RebeKlaus part! DUH!).

Elena is my least favourite character and I like her less and less every week that goes by.

That is all!

dante_kent January 6 2012, 13:32:34 UTC

I know. My filter is beyond broken. I am ashamed and horrified and I will do better next time.

Ooh, I'm intrigued! Disagree with me! DO IT. I want ALL your counterarguments! (Ok, maybe not all, because this thing is fucking long. Top 3?)

Elena is a tricky girl. So why do you like her less and less? I can see how that would be, but there are several tracks for growing Elena hate, and I'm curious which one you're on.

waltzmatildah January 6 2012, 14:04:22 UTC

Ooh! I didn't know there was growing Elena hate, so this interesting ( ... )

dante_kent January 7 2012, 08:07:37 UTC

I actually agree with a lot of what you've said. I think much of my fondness for Elena has to do with the fact that, as much as she IS put on a pedestal by the writers, her virtue is less emphasized than the heroines of past fandoms I've been into (so much of me is basically fandom trauma, whatever.). I worry sometimes that you're right and that the writers really DON'T know what they're doing with her. I have found Elena to be one of the hardest characters to really understand on this show, because it does seem like there's a disconnect between what she seems to be and what we're told she is. But I really do have faith in this show, and I need to believe (for my own sanity, mostly) that there's a plan ( ... )

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ever_neutral January 6 2012, 13:59:13 UTC

YAYAYAYAY A REACTION POST FROM YOU \o/ I JUST GOT OFF A PLANE TOO. Except I went to bed before watching the episode, BECAUSE I KNEW IT WOULD TAKE ALL OF MY ENERGY LOL. this fucking show. AND NOW HERE IS MY GINORMOUS REPLY THAT IS AS LONG AS YOUR POST.

+ BONNIE-STEFAN. Wow, I have had zero feelings about their (barely there) dynamic, but. FEELINGS MAY BE EMERGING.

+ JEREMY/TYLER. Where has that bromance been, GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK. Let me smush you. (And prod you in the direction of each other's faces, cheers.)

She's so flirty with him. I think a lot of that has to do with the level of comfort in their relationship rather than any romantic tension (she's always wanted to bone him, at least on a purely physical level) -- Man, I have been struggling to articulate that, but YOU NAILED IT. The attraction's always been there. It… hasn't come out of nowhere? But Damon's always been in that Not Safe Don't Go There area. Until now. Because he is basically her best friend right now. And, SHE RELAXES AROUND HIM. +10000000.

+ Elena saying ( ... )

ever_neutral January 6 2012, 13:59:56 UTC

+ I loved how Elena and Klaus interacted. I shipped it, obviously (they were, after all, two people on screen, and this is TVD. That's pretty much all it takes for me at this point.). -- PREACH. I ain't even mad.

+ But no one can save her. There is no salvation to be had. -- omg, YES. And it means so much that in this place of no-salvation, THERE IS STILL DAMON. This is everything that they are.

+ SOBBING @ YOUR KLAUS/REBEKAH THOUGHTS. OCEAN OF TEARS.

+ Yes to your thoughts on the compulsion too. I have seen a lot of outrage over it, and yeah, it's true, it was unacceptable at best. But I don't know how anyone wouldn't understand WHY they did what they did. And really, that's all I care about.

+ There will be no "oh, the kiss didn't mean anything because we didn't know Stefan was secretly doing good." Fuck that. That's the easy way out. No, we're going to deal with EVERYTHING. -- OOOOOOH YES. Because that is what I was afraid of, that obvious/cheap/lazy storytelling device, BUT NO. This was actually brave. I LOVE IT.

( ... )

dante_kent January 7 2012, 08:58:30 UTC

And it means so much that in this place of no-salvation, THERE IS STILL DAMON. This is everything that they are.

DYING. MY HEART CANNOT TAKE THIS SHIP.

But I don't know how anyone wouldn't understand WHY they did what they did. And really, that's all I care about.

Preach, my friend. I don't care what these characters do so long as it makes sense within the character's world. Someone could do the most selfless and wonderful act, and I wouldn't give a fuck if it didn't make sense in the storyline.

Guess what? DAMON/ELENA WOULD STILL BE A HUGE MESS.

SERIOUSLY, MY HEART CAN'T TAKE ALL MY FEELINGS FOR THIS SHIP.

The kiss validated NOTHING. I just love how unconventional their whole relationship has been.In any other romance, this scene would have been such a turning point. But I honestly don't think it changes a thing about their relationship, and I don't think Damon thinks that either. Unconventional is apt. I've told you before and I will keep saying that I love them because they're basically falling in love in spite of ( ... )

dante_kent January 7 2012, 08:47:43 UTC

The solid hour I spent writing this reaction post has been so validated by the fact that two real live humans have actually bothered to read it. GINORMOUS REPLIES MAKE ME HAPPY.

I'm just really intrigued by Bonnie/Stefan. It's more than likely that nothing will really come of them. But they could be SO interesting. Or maybe it's just that I'm always excited when Bonnie has a scene with anyone other than ancient tomes. I WANT TO LOVE HER SO MUCH.

Because he is basically her best friend right now.

♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

I've never done a full episode rewatch so immediately after an initial watch before, and it really was fascinating what I picked up on. The Jeremy compulsion foreshadowing just HIT me the second time around, so I'm pleased it makes sense to you.

I see people harping on her left and right for being selfish in this episode and I'm like, so what? YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.The more selfishly Elena acts, the more I love her? But seriously though ( ... )

wheatear January 7 2012, 23:52:05 UTC

Reason #19677483827 why I adore Damon Salvatore: "You know me. Never miss a chance to plan another epic failure." TOO MUCH LOVE TO EXPRESS.

This was a great line. Damon, so sassy.

I loved how Elena and Klaus interacted. I shipped it, obviously (they were, after all, two people on screen, and this is TVD. That's pretty much all it takes for me at this point.).

Lol, accurate.

A+ post. I would quote more but it was all so good. ♥

dante_kent January 9 2012, 08:15:28 UTC

Damon, so sassy.

Well, he is the Regina George of Mystic Falls. He's got to keep up appearances.

♥ I'm impressed anyone even got through the pages and pages of flail. I'll try to be more restrained next time (emphasis on try...).

part 1 bluesuzanne January 8 2012, 07:28:36 UTC

I really dig the Jeremy/Tyler vibe. They seem to connect and accept each other in a way that the others can't, and I just like how they interact. Even when Tyler is scheming and being all dangerous and sired.

Me too. And I'm not fond of Tyler generally. But when he's with Jer… it just kind of works. And I find myself liking him so much more.

And the foreshadowing, just, show, I love you. Elena saying Jeremy has lost everyone he cares about, and Damon saying, "He still has you." MY HEART. Because Jeremy DOES still have Elena, and because of that he'll lose her. The best thing she can think to do for him is to rid him of herself and all she carries with her, and it's so beautiful and so horrible and overall just tragic. The Gilberts held their own in an episode that contained my Brothership AND RebeKlaus. Well played, Gilberts. Omg beautiful beautiful :(( And it must be a kick in the guts for Elena to think of that now. Like… he still has you. And you're what he needs to get away from. Because oh Elena, all the unfair, unwarranted, ( ... )

Re: part 1 dante_kent January 9 2012, 08:26:13 UTC

Because oh Elena, all the unfair, unwarranted, unavoidable guilt you carry just for being what you are WHICH IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

TEARS EVERYWHERE. And then there's the fact that Elena probably still blames herself for the death of their parents, and the weight of that guilt is crushing her...I JUST WANT TO BAKE HER COOKIES AND WRAP HER IN BLANKETS AND CRY.

All your thoughts about the 'Stefan problem' issue are very valid. I think you're right, really, but I just found it interesting that Elena was finally letting Stefan not be her problem. I think the novelty of that struck me more than anything else, since what she says is absolutely true. She doesn't owe him anything, but he owes her.

KLAMON IS THE VERY BEST. And I'm developing all sorts of absurd fantasies in my head about how Klaus flirts with Damon to get back at Stefan, while Stefan and Damon flirt with Klaus to get back at each other, and it's a whole glorious homoerotic mess. #i ship everything, whatever

part 2 bluesuzanne January 8 2012, 07:29:17 UTC

Also, so much love for how Damon is badgering Stefan about why he saves him, up until Stefan insists he doesn't owe Damon anything. And Damon pauses, and lets it go, and moves on to the next question. Because he knows, of course. And once he's sure Stefan knows too, well, that's enough.

GIGGLING AND CLAPPING.

100%. I was so pissed at her over the Elijah thing, but here I have nothing but respect.

And Elena. God, she just killed me. She says it's not fair that Jeremy has to live like this, but sweetie, it isn't fair that YOU have to live like this. And it makes me want to wrap her up in a blanket and feed her pie, because her life is a mess, and there isn't any reason for it. She's supernatural, but not in a way that helps anything. She isn't powerful or immortal, she's just trapped. And it isn't fair, most especially because no one can help her. She can help Jeremy, and she does. But no one can save her. There is no salvation to be had. I ALMOST WANT TO JUST GET DOWN AND CRY ALL OVER THIS PARAGRAPH. BECAUSE. This is why I can't ( ... )

Re: part 2 dante_kent January 9 2012, 08:33:38 UTC

But there are also ways in which she's one of the most devastatingly selfless kids around.

This, always. Of COURSE she has selfish moments. I love her selfish moments - I actively want her to be darker and more manipulative. But she tries so hard to make everything right for the people she loves, and always especially for her brother. And she's 18 years old. The way she goes about everything is not at all perfect, but the way she cares makes me love her no matter what. I WILL SHOUT MY LOVE FOR ELENA GILBERT FROM THE ROOFTOPS FOREVER.

I was dreading watching the show under that shadow for episode after episode. I should have had more faith in the show, because it's proved itself pacing-wise, time and time again.MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. I thought the whole misunderstanding was going to be one of the sustained arcs of the second half of the season. I thought I'd read that in interviews (never been so happy to be wrong). And suddenly it's out of the way, and this is EXACTLY why I trust this show so much. Because every single time I think ( ... )