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Sep 06, 2012 10:24

Spoiled myself for the ending of Gaksital and ( Read more... )

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mionenoelle September 6 2012, 14:34:14 UTC
I know right? I found the previous episode pretty bad too mostly because the heroes acted with such frustrating complacency, which resulted in pretty much a lot of deaths (including Mok-dan's, which means it's pretty stupid, too). So much fail, so much plot-induced stupidity... sigh. And this show was so good.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 00:31:53 UTC
Yeah, it was so good for most of its run, but the ending ep pretty much wiped out all my goodwill.

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mionenoelle September 7 2012, 01:49:33 UTC
Haven't watched the last one yet (even though I'm spoiled), but since the heroes' stupidity in episode 27 drives the conflict in the finale, I'm gonna go ahead and say I will watch it with much eyerolling and snarking. So sad this should happen to an otherwise excellent drama.

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amandioka September 6 2012, 14:40:37 UTC
Don't tell me the evil guys don't die?

I can take MokDan's "sacrifice" if everybody else (the good guys) get a happily ever after. But from what you're saying, that doesn't happen...

*sigh* I guess I won't even watch the ending either.. maybe with a lot of fastforward.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 00:38:02 UTC
The evil guys - Ueno, Kimura Taro, Shunji do die. I just don't buy how Shunji does.

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rectherapyfreak September 9 2012, 03:35:28 UTC
They made Shunji go too crazy to make him end the way he does imo. He is angrily blaming Lee Kang To to the end and then just gives in...I don't buy it. To be quite honest I didn't really ever buy his character...He goes from being such a super nice person to an evil sadistic monster for little reason imo. Both his brother and father were horrible people and he knew it. Of course if they were my bro/father I would be REALLY upset that they died to but I would understand completely that they had it coming...and if anything would ask for forgiveness. Then he finds out that his dad killed Kang To's dad and his brother killed Kang To's mother and he still is hell bent on killing Kang To!

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dangermousie September 9 2012, 13:05:12 UTC
Yes, Shunji's sudden repentance made no sense to me at all.

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mszesty September 6 2012, 14:57:21 UTC
The problem I have is that I don't actually buy that Shunji would - well, you know. As much as he hates himself for becoming a monster, he hates Gaksital and the Korean rebels waaaaaaayyyy more. And it just doesn't make sense character-wise. Shunji has spent twenty-some episodes blaming Gaksital for his brother's death (and later, his father's too) without ever stopping to think that he and his family might be a part of the problem. I guess you could argue that Mok Dan's death put him over the edge, but I dunno. He just doesn't have a history of self-reproach.

But I haven't seen the last two episodes yet, so maybe that'll change my mind.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 00:38:46 UTC
Agreed - I have zero problem with Shunji dying but I cannot believe he has enough sane humanity left in him to feel such guilt that he would take his life. Such a cop out.

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cleobulle September 6 2012, 15:22:34 UTC
Yeah, I know. I'm really crushed. I don't feel like translating episode 28 but I feel I have a responsability to do it anyway because a lot of people depend on it to watch the drama. I'll be dragging my feet and it's going ot be hard.

So he ends up fighting some more? Okaaaay - and the point of the story and his arc is???
That's exactly it! They already used that when he picked himself up after killing his brother. How could they have him do the same thing after they killed Mok Dan off? We already knew he was 100% committed to the cause. What the hell, drama? It's like they chose to push their "free korea" and how awesome the freedom fighters were agenda and threw characterization to the dogs.

Episode 28 really boggles the mind. How could a drama so well-written unravel like that in a single episode? I really didn't expect it. I'd decided to trust the writer to the end since she'd amazed me several time through the drama by her awesomeness.

I feel empty, I was so invested in this drama.

Arang, save me from my pit of despair.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 00:35:00 UTC
I am so upset - the drama took everything that made Kang To compelling and gutted it to make him a symbol - all complexity gone. Gaksital started out strong and stayed so for most of its run but ultimately it got subsumed in its nationalistic agenda. I did not watch this for nationalism or some hagiographic view of the the independence movement. I watched it for the characters. And they all got short shrifted to push the nationalistic message. What a waste.

At least I still have Faith and Arang and Five Fingers and May Queen.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 02:43:17 UTC
Heh, I love AM1997 but I am not obsessed with it the way I am with the others.

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usisblog September 6 2012, 15:49:01 UTC
That was the reason because I never started it. I dislike Tearjerkers without Happy End. And when a story ever cried "Drama" then it was this one.

I just hope Faith won't go this way but as you pointed it is going Fushigi Yuugi. The Mangaka isn't known for her Happy Endings *sigh*. I think ES has to return.

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dangermousie September 7 2012, 00:39:38 UTC
I don't mind unhappy endings (I loved both IRIS and Hong Gil Dong) but they have to have a reason. This is all blah.

At least nobody is dying in Faith...

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usisblog September 7 2012, 06:59:54 UTC
Reasons are in the eyes of the beholders. I'm sure a lot of viewers would say it made sense indeed.
As I said, I still don't like unhappy endings even when it makes sense. Real Life is delusional enough, in my dream world no one who is dear to me dies or is left alone without hope :P.

Yet! I like that the bad guys aren't black/white and I can kinda like them. But every time I like the bad ones it ends bad. So I keep my fingers crossed and hope the writers aren't that into Fushigi Yuugi.

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sisterjune September 7 2012, 02:42:18 UTC
Its not unhappy ending at all, but I think mousie dislikes how the story was resolved. like how Shunji dies for example. didnt ring true to her. and also the ending is very nationalistic etc etc.

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