I'm still stubbornly a CaoCao girl as well throughout. It's not like we don't know he's a flawed man and he got one uppity all the time but his clear headed drive, frankness with it (as opposed to Liu Bei) is soo yummy I wanna lick him every time his eyes sparkle on a new plan of attack.
I have the same prob with Liu Bei even when I first met him in a comie book as a kid. A part of it is I maybe rebellious against being told to worship his knees and he's the ultimate good guy. imo he's as shrewd and cunning if not more so as the rest, hiding under his token excuse of I'm doing it for the Han empire. His biggest accomplishment is hiding his ambition and keeping himself as low profile as possible so as not to sound the alarm and give an excuse for other fractions to slay him when he's weak.. and have a harem of 'brothers' to do his dirty laundry.
ZhuGe is very delish as well. I hope it's your cup of tea so u r not devoid of the pretty even though 3Kingdom epically hitting all the marks in everything else.
Well, I mean, the reason Liu Bei never does anything awful is because the author of 3K loved him because he's ~descended from the imperial line~ which gives him the divine right to rule. Thus the authorial bias.
(I don't know if this is true or not. This is the gist of what my dad conveyed to me, when he was telling me the stories from the book, so this is possibly heavily biased by my dad's opinions.)
There's a whole bunch of historical and political reasons why Liu Bei was made to be the good guy (even though in official history Cao Cao's kingdom was considered the legitimate successor of the Han). In the novel, he's somewhat feeble, weeping all the time (no, that's not a weeping swordsman whom I want to lick) and going "omg I feel so SAAAAAD for the people! I'm so depressed and I don't know what to do I might as well kill myself!" This drama, I find, does him more justice. Here he's sanctimonious, too, but he is *aware* of why. He knows that he's not powerful enough to survive, so he really has to rely on being upright and stuff, so as to win the people's and Heaven's favour
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BABY SUN QUAN! Adorableness (I still don't like grown up SQ as much).
(Also, Hi Lady Wu! *waves*)
The first Peter Ho drama I saw as "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (with Shui Ling). It was subbed on this channel in the DC area that randomly showed Chinese tv shows every week. Unfortunately, I couldn't even begin to tell you where to get that (unless you want to settle for the 2 hour movie version Yesasia has). As far as I remember (it was 10 years ago), he had a non-terribly sad ending. In the Hollywood movie version, it's all sad and stuff, but the TV series I remember being a bit better.
Otherwise, since I'm not a big fan of him, I wish I could help you there but I can't :-/
Btw, I currently live in DC so am amused to note that their tradition for random local channels showing the most bizarre stuff lives on - one of the local channels currently likes to run a Bollywood gossip show AND a Russian news hour. And there was that one time I saw the Indian TV version of some religious epic on it mid-Sunday. LOL.
Many people had issues with how scheming and manipulative grown-up Sun Quan is at the beginning, but he grows on most people. I think he really starts to shine after Red Cliffs, when he's got that angsty lord-vassal thing going on with Zhou Yu.
On a shallower point, I wish they hadn't slapped mustaches on all the hot young guys in this show. I almost lol'ed when Lu Bu first appeared with a mustache. I know it's supposed to mark the passage of time, but... like, if I were Diaochan, I'd have INSISTED on him shaving the silly thing off.
Sun Ce also looked much worse with a mustache. Zhou Yu barely manages to pull it off (not as in removing it) but that's probably because he's so handsome anyway (though he looks WAY better without). The hottie warrior Zhao Yun also appeared with a 'stache for a few episode, but fortunately the producers had the good taste to remove it afterwards. And Emp. Xian looks downright RIDICULOUS with his.
Is Myth subbed? I think I might try it one of these days. Three Kinngdoms I might leave for now - my favourite OTP ends in death too fast!
Yup, he basicaly gives up his plan of attack and the only way out because he can't bear to leave Diaochan when she's sick. I am a rabid shipper for them but even I can't help but think this is a bit insane.
Sounds a little daft, but it all depends on how bad she was . If she is at the death door (she certainly looks like it, and at that day and age this was a most likely outcome of any serious illness), I get it. His life is all about her and he probably would have never lived beyond her death. I only Googled the whole issue but it seems as if they dramatised the whole thing and he lost for more objective reasons than her illness.
Lui Bei - I am not inclined to like him AT ALL. As much as I gathered from my Googling it was him who actually grassed on Lu Bu to Cao Cao who initially wasn't going to kill Lu Bu.
Even in the drama, he lost for more reasons than shippy ones -though he certainly might not have lost if he went out and built that fort when he was supposed to instead of staying with sick wifey.
Re: The Myth. HandE is in the process of hardsubbing HQ files, so soon.
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Just wait until Zhuge outwits CaoCao in every turn. Then you'll see what a loser he really is :)
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I have the same prob with Liu Bei even when I first met him in a comie book as a kid. A part of it is I maybe rebellious against being told to worship his knees and he's the ultimate good guy. imo he's as shrewd and cunning if not more so as the rest, hiding under his token excuse of I'm doing it for the Han empire. His biggest accomplishment is hiding his ambition and keeping himself as low profile as possible so as not to sound the alarm and give an excuse for other fractions to slay him when he's weak.. and have a harem of 'brothers' to do his dirty laundry.
ZhuGe is very delish as well. I hope it's your cup of tea so u r not devoid of the pretty even though 3Kingdom epically hitting all the marks in everything else.
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Don't worry, 3K has plenty of other eyecandy for me even if ZhuGe will end up not being to my liking.
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(I don't know if this is true or not. This is the gist of what my dad conveyed to me, when he was telling me the stories from the book, so this is possibly heavily biased by my dad's opinions.)
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(Also, Hi Lady Wu! *waves*)
The first Peter Ho drama I saw as "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (with Shui Ling). It was subbed on this channel in the DC area that randomly showed Chinese tv shows every week. Unfortunately, I couldn't even begin to tell you where to get that (unless you want to settle for the 2 hour movie version Yesasia has). As far as I remember (it was 10 years ago), he had a non-terribly sad ending. In the Hollywood movie version, it's all sad and stuff, but the TV series I remember being a bit better.
Otherwise, since I'm not a big fan of him, I wish I could help you there but I can't :-/
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Btw, I currently live in DC so am amused to note that their tradition for random local channels showing the most bizarre stuff lives on - one of the local channels currently likes to run a Bollywood gossip show AND a Russian news hour. And there was that one time I saw the Indian TV version of some religious epic on it mid-Sunday. LOL.
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Many people had issues with how scheming and manipulative grown-up Sun Quan is at the beginning, but he grows on most people. I think he really starts to shine after Red Cliffs, when he's got that angsty lord-vassal thing going on with Zhou Yu.
On a shallower point, I wish they hadn't slapped mustaches on all the hot young guys in this show. I almost lol'ed when Lu Bu first appeared with a mustache. I know it's supposed to mark the passage of time, but... like, if I were Diaochan, I'd have INSISTED on him shaving the silly thing off.
Sun Ce also looked much worse with a mustache. Zhou Yu barely manages to pull it off (not as in removing it) but that's probably because he's so handsome anyway (though he looks WAY better without). The hottie warrior Zhao Yun also appeared with a 'stache for a few episode, but fortunately the producers had the good taste to remove it afterwards. And Emp. Xian looks downright RIDICULOUS with his.
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Yup, he basicaly gives up his plan of attack and the only way out because he can't bear to leave Diaochan when she's sick. I am a rabid shipper for them but even I can't help but think this is a bit insane.
Sounds a little daft, but it all depends on how bad she was . If she is at the death door (she certainly looks like it, and at that day and age this was a most likely outcome of any serious illness), I get it. His life is all about her and he probably would have never lived beyond her death. I only Googled the whole issue but it seems as if they dramatised the whole thing and he lost for more objective reasons than her illness.
Lui Bei - I am not inclined to like him AT ALL. As much as I gathered from my Googling it was him who actually grassed on Lu Bu to Cao Cao who initially wasn't going to kill Lu Bu.
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Even in the drama, he lost for more reasons than shippy ones -though he certainly might not have lost if he went out and built that fort when he was supposed to instead of staying with sick wifey.
Re: The Myth. HandE is in the process of hardsubbing HQ files, so soon.
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