I totally get where you're coming from. BBF is very little like the manga, Jan Di is not really Tsukushi, Jun Pyo is not really Domyoji. (On the other hand, Ji Hoo is pretty much Rui)
That being said, it doesn't bother me. I really like BBF as an entity seperate from the HYD franchise. And I actually like the progression of Jan Di's character. I always had a hard time with the believability of Tsukushi's character. I like how Jan Di is getting slowly beat down from everything, it makes her more believable to me.
Maybe it's because I watched the anime first. The anime is not really THAT close to the manga, so from the get go I had a skewed perception.
I watched the anime first too, and it was pretty close to the manga until the end where they had to make their own. IMO. And Tsukushi was a bulldozer in it.
I can see her getting beat down by overwork, but she has turned into someone so listless and mopey that it's more like she is channeling a stereotypical Choi Ji Woo role! Now, I love Choi Ji Woo, but that is about the polar opposite from what Jandi should be - CJW's characters are pinnacles of self-sacrificing, suffering womanhood but even they have a quiet inner strength I am not seeing here - Jandi is just beat down.
Oh God, the anime ending! I wasn't aware that they had pulled that ending out of their asses for YEARS. Other than the ending, the thing I noticed about the anime vs the manga was that Rui was not really in love with Tsukushi in the anime. I never had a shipping crisis while watching the anime, because Rui always ended up with Shizuka
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It's not reasonable in the real world of course (and if it happened in real life, I'd angrily kick the girl's ass, and tell her that a man isn't everything), but I like stories about all consuming love that leave a person unable to function when it disappears.
Oh, I love that, but it just seemed she was such a different type of character to start with, plus her bf ditched her in such a fashion! I am all for Grace slitting her wrists when separated from Dong Chul in East of Eden, e.g., but that's because she's been separated by force from someone who clearly loves her back, and because she's been written in such a way, it's not inconsistent.
*HIGH FIVE* I really thought I was alone for just not feeling it for this drama. It was enjoyable though until episode 10? I still continue to watch now but the more I watch the more I seem to miss j-drama version. I totally agree with you! I find myself having to say WTF all the time and telling myself to think less so i won't get so pissed off that it doesn't make sense. :/
Yeah, it was enjoyable at first but the more they deviated and did weird things, the more wtf and wtf it became and now I am just rolling my eyes. Such a waste - they had an excellent cast. Oh well, we had two adapatations I adored (MG and HYD), it's only fair I get to strike out once.
It really is such a waste. That's true. :) Thankfully, there's still one good k-drama this season, Return of Iljimae. If only it didn't lack softsubs. There has been such a long stall for subs at viikii. :(
I understand all your complaints (except I'm not crazy about Goong- way too draggy and spent too much time with boring scenes of people talking about the same thing over and over) but I'm just trying to ignore it now and make the best of it.
Apparently they are toning things down now (such as the Jae Kyung "seduction" scene) because of complaints from people that the show is too "wild" or something. WTF? What is there to even tone down? Booo, is all I say.
One more thing I forgot to say! I wasn't that big a fan of Hana Yori Dango 2 either. It was one of the first dramas that I watched as it aired (perhaps THE first one, minus PGSM...I think) and while it was cracky, it was extremely frustrating. Every episode went back and forth of one of the couple wanting to get back together and the other one pulling away. But I still was able to enjoy it, like I can with the Korean version. Maybe because I wasn't a fan of the anime and manga? I read the first volume of the manga back when Viz released it and then saw a couple episodes of the anime but they bored me to tears and the animation was horrible. I think it was just because that was the time I was just becoming bored of anime and manga in general. That's why I moved on to live action entertainment!
I actually loved Hanadan2, maybe because the internal vaccilations of the characters made sense to me - for one thing they gave Dom a hugely compelling reason to try to pull away, and I could see Makino's waivering too. I don't know - it made sense to me. Not to mention, you could still feel not just their love (because I don't doubt they love each other in kdrama either) but their utter compatibility, and I am not getting the latter here. I never wanted to ship Rui with Makino in Hanadan2.
The anime, btw, did have hideous artwork.
Too wild? Ahahahahahahahaaa. Yeah right.
Goong might have been too draggy (I didn't find it so but I can see how other would) but it stayed character consistent throughout. This - I find frustrating how inconsistent it is.
Apparently they are toning things down now (such as the Jae Kyung "seduction" scene) because of complaints from people that the show is too "wild" or something.
I saw some people post about that, but wtf was up with the DRINKING in this episode? Jun Pyo had wine at dinners in Macau, but Yi Jung totally got wasted on that scotch, and Jun Pyo poured himself another glass of wine at the foursome dinner! When I first started and noted the Gossip Girl-Boys over Flowers-Meteor Garden elements, BoF wound up the most innocent because there wasn't drinking.
If they're trying to tone it down, they seem to have made it up in a different direction!
like they are not even trying anymore now that they've got the huge ratings and the mania.
Basically.
I hate that the Rui/Makino ship is more developed than the actual OTP which is supposed to be the core of the show.
Oh yes. For someone like me, who is not only a rabid D/M shipper, but also a canon whore, to become so mad about JH/Jandi ship means the writers are really doing something wrong! If I were making a vid, I'd find it easier to have material for a JH/Jandi vid - not to mention they show them having more fun and more compatibility. WTF? I am shipping them and loving it but it's so not Hanadan. The whole point of Hanadan is D/M. Seriously. Such fail.
I haven't even watched the last three or so episodes. The entire show has kind of lost its luster for me. I was crazy for it in the beginning but it just hasn't packed the same punch for me. I'm blaming Jandi and Jun Pyo, because everyone else has been pretty fantastic (JI HOO!).
Instead I've been spending my time barrelling through Hong Gil Dong. Love it so much!
I am so glad you are loving HGD! It was my favorite drama last year - so perfect. Funny, and heart-breaking and with a political message, too. Plus, Kang Ji Hwan...*swoon* Have you seen Capital Scandal?
I only have two episodes left, so that makes me sad, but I've enjoyed the ride so much it is hard to complain. The only issue I've taken with it was Yi Nok's decision when she learned about her past, because I didn't understand/accept/feel like there was any actual reasoning behind it. So the angst that has blossomed from that (while lovely - Gil Dong sad face!) is difficult for me to get into because it feels like a false path.
BUT OMG KANG JI HWAN. I think I may be in love. Seriously. I was actually in the middle of Capital Scandal when I started watching HGD. Then I kind of dropped everything on my plate in favor of finishing that. I am headed straight back for CS, but I foresaw drama/sadness awaiting me so I skipped over to the lighter fare of HGD for the time being.
The Yi Nok thing made sense to me - it's a huge thing to learn, and of course, the fact that GD's bastardy father was responsible for the death of her family and her adopted family too? That definitely unhinged her and I can see why she thinks she has no future with GD.
I love CS so incredibly much.
The one KJH drama I was not able to even check out was 90 days - he plays a man with a terminal illness in love with his cousin. I don't think I can take that.
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That being said, it doesn't bother me. I really like BBF as an entity seperate from the HYD franchise. And I actually like the progression of Jan Di's character. I always had a hard time with the believability of Tsukushi's character. I like how Jan Di is getting slowly beat down from everything, it makes her more believable to me.
Maybe it's because I watched the anime first. The anime is not really THAT close to the manga, so from the get go I had a skewed perception.
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I can see her getting beat down by overwork, but she has turned into someone so listless and mopey that it's more like she is channeling a stereotypical Choi Ji Woo role! Now, I love Choi Ji Woo, but that is about the polar opposite from what Jandi should be - CJW's characters are pinnacles of self-sacrificing, suffering womanhood but even they have a quiet inner strength I am not seeing here - Jandi is just beat down.
Oh well. I got To Get Her as my new shiny :)
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Oh, I love that, but it just seemed she was such a different type of character to start with, plus her bf ditched her in such a fashion! I am all for Grace slitting her wrists when separated from Dong Chul in East of Eden, e.g., but that's because she's been separated by force from someone who clearly loves her back, and because she's been written in such a way, it's not inconsistent.
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Apparently they are toning things down now (such as the Jae Kyung "seduction" scene) because of complaints from people that the show is too "wild" or something. WTF? What is there to even tone down? Booo, is all I say.
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The anime, btw, did have hideous artwork.
Too wild? Ahahahahahahahaaa. Yeah right.
Goong might have been too draggy (I didn't find it so but I can see how other would) but it stayed character consistent throughout. This - I find frustrating how inconsistent it is.
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I saw some people post about that, but wtf was up with the DRINKING in this episode? Jun Pyo had wine at dinners in Macau, but Yi Jung totally got wasted on that scotch, and Jun Pyo poured himself another glass of wine at the foursome dinner! When I first started and noted the Gossip Girl-Boys over Flowers-Meteor Garden elements, BoF wound up the most innocent because there wasn't drinking.
If they're trying to tone it down, they seem to have made it up in a different direction!
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Basically.
I hate that the Rui/Makino ship is more developed than the actual OTP which is supposed to be the core of the show.
Oh yes. For someone like me, who is not only a rabid D/M shipper, but also a canon whore, to become so mad about JH/Jandi ship means the writers are really doing something wrong! If I were making a vid, I'd find it easier to have material for a JH/Jandi vid - not to mention they show them having more fun and more compatibility. WTF? I am shipping them and loving it but it's so not Hanadan. The whole point of Hanadan is D/M. Seriously. Such fail.
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Instead I've been spending my time barrelling through Hong Gil Dong. Love it so much!
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I am so glad you are loving HGD! It was my favorite drama last year - so perfect. Funny, and heart-breaking and with a political message, too. Plus, Kang Ji Hwan...*swoon* Have you seen Capital Scandal?
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BUT OMG KANG JI HWAN. I think I may be in love. Seriously. I was actually in the middle of Capital Scandal when I started watching HGD. Then I kind of dropped everything on my plate in favor of finishing that. I am headed straight back for CS, but I foresaw drama/sadness awaiting me so I skipped over to the lighter fare of HGD for the time being.
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I love CS so incredibly much.
The one KJH drama I was not able to even check out was 90 days - he plays a man with a terminal illness in love with his cousin. I don't think I can take that.
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