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mollybeakers February 25 2015, 03:14:00 UTC
OH, JOHN. It's gonna get worse before it gets better. Use your family for support, don't push them away. argh.

Annette will let him talk, I don't know why he doesn't... how long does he have to be married before he can TRUST her. Goddammit. ugh.

BUT, he did give in to Carroll... for now.

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jonesingjay February 25 2015, 03:31:18 UTC
No 'warm fuzzes' for John this time? I FAILED! LOL. Yeah, I didn't write him terribly sympathetic. I realized that, but I liked what I got here, and I let it slide. Next up. Maybe, a more relatable John when he returns to Blighty.

Let me do the math. I peg Carroll being born in 74'. It's 80' now. John and Annette married just before Carroll's birth. They've been married at least six years. They've been together since the summer of 66'. So...that's a total of...fourteen years he's been with Annette. Yes, he should trust her to talk to her. He's just so wrapped up in his pain. Is that any excuse? No...he did warm up somewhat to their kid, so that's something, I guess.

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mollybeakers February 25 2015, 03:59:34 UTC
Okay, I can give you that. Mr. Wallows needs some wallowing time before he's ready to face it, perhaps? That would certainly be understandable. Even the lashing out and whatnot...

And maybe you're onto something with the bear, anyway... that memory bringing him back to realize he actually DOES have a support system in his wife and family. It sounds as if he gave Annette grieving room and (gasp) actual SUPPORT when Charlie died... so maybe he's just stuck in first stage for a bit.

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jonesingjay February 25 2015, 04:45:49 UTC
Yeah, give him some leeway. He did lose his partner of...twenty three years. His behavior is understandable, and it is John. Doesn't make what he's doing right, but you can kind of get where he's coming from at the moment.

He's just a bit stuck at the moment. Now, if he keeps it up, that's an entirely whole other ball of wax right there. John is slowly making his way back to reality and the world of the living.

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suburban_boho February 27 2015, 13:05:16 UTC
Okay how is that you can make me want to hug and comfort John all at the same time wanting to shake him, LOL? I get that grieving is a complex process. He's with the one set of people he should be able to let it all out with. But all the same, it does strike me as a John thing. Time and trust built with Annette doesn't override the base instincts. John always has struck me as a bit primal brained - raw emotions and mixed with a product of him time (never be too soft, never be too emotional...it could be tough to over come). It's a conflicting way to be. So the wallowing happens. He should be able to let go with Annette but for whatever reason he can't. So I can kind of see it at least somewhat ( ... )

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jonesingjay February 28 2015, 01:36:53 UTC
I think your reaction is probably how a lot of people felt about John at times. You want to hug the guy one minute and gave him a good shake the next! LOL ( ... )

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dasliebchenkind July 13 2015, 16:58:24 UTC
Interesting turnabout with this one, with John mourning Paul's murder. I'm just a little confused on one account - is the Carroll in this story the same Carroll in "Ghost of Christmas Past - Part 2"? Or, are you using the same name for a different child in a totally different story? In the other one. John clearly doesn't know if the girl is his or not, yet here you refer to him getting the bear when he was waiting for her to be born. Or, am I missing something?

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jonesingjay July 13 2015, 20:06:04 UTC
You're missing something. LOL.

'Ghost Of Christmas Past' is a completely different world from the one in which Paul is murdered. So, yes, this time around Carroll is a Lennon. It's also the world in which George pines for the relationship he could've had with Annette.

It's a different perspective on how John might or in this case not cope with the death of his dear friend and creative partner.

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