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Dec 07, 2005 11:41

I guess all the old LJ comment mail queues have come unstuck, and I'm getting email from before Thanksgiving. I'm glad it didn't disappear into the ether, but it's also really annoying.

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The New Yorker has reposted Brokeback Mountain in time for the film release. I hadn't read the story before (in general, I'm not much of a short ( Read more... )

my stargate is pastede on yay, books: general

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katie_m December 7 2005, 20:34:55 UTC
Daniel has research assistants?

Don't worry about it. You'll never hear a thing about them again.

Why is Jack being such a ditz? He's not that interested in science, but he's not a stupid man.

Er, yeah. Brace yourself, because it's all downhill on the ditz slope from here, frankly.

Waitaminute--is Daniel sitting out the entire series finale with appendicitis? It seems like an odd choice for the writers to leave one team member out of what looks to be a cliffhanger episode.

Michael Shanks actually got appendicitis during the filming of Crystal Skull, and had to be written out of Nemesis at the last minute. So it wasn't so much intentional.

You don't need subtitles to know that the Russian sub guys are screwed.

Supposedly the conversation actually goes something like this:

SUB GUY #1: Hey, what's that?
SUB GUY #2: It sounds like one of those bug things from the last episode!

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danceswithwords December 7 2005, 21:10:07 UTC
Brace yourself, because it's all downhill on the ditz slope from here, frankly.

That's not encouraging. One of my huge pet peeves is warping characters to achieve cheap humor.

Real-life appendicitis makes sense. I was wondering if there was some behind-the-scenes reason for the lack of Daniel.

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laurashapiro December 7 2005, 20:36:01 UTC
I have a different history with Narnia in that I have reread the books dozens of times, through childhood and into adulthood ( ... )

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danceswithwords December 7 2005, 21:15:00 UTC
I don't want any visual representation of these beloved books to usurp my personal movie, the one that runs in my head when I reread or imagine Narnia.

That's a very understandable desire, especially given that a big commercial film is much more likely than not to mangle most of the elements we hold dear about the books. I think Peter Jackson made me either more optimistic about these kinds of adaptations, but we'll see. The brouhaha just makes me tired, though.

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roo2 December 7 2005, 20:37:24 UTC
I went and looked at the Playgirl interview and was surprised to see that the article spelled the show's name as "Battlestar Gallactica". I think their copy editor needs a crash course in pop culture :-)

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danceswithwords December 7 2005, 21:16:19 UTC
Heh! I hadn't even noticed that.

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brynnmck December 7 2005, 21:34:15 UTC
SDW caught that, too, and I was like, HOW DID YOU NOTICE THAT AMONGST ALL THE CUTENESS?!

I mean, normally I am all about the spelling, but really. Priorities.

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brynnmck December 7 2005, 21:32:44 UTC
I was incoherent with love for Jamie Bamber after that interview. SO CUTE.

I've been frustrated by a lot of the conflict that's arisen around the Narnia movie, too. And you articulated it very well; for me, it's not an either/or proposition, and I think it's as much of a mistake to say that the books can't be appreciated without coming from a Christian viewpoint as it is to say that the Christian viewpoint is all there is to the books. (I'm not sure that said what I meant it to say... did that make sense?) I was raised Catholic, and at the time I first read those books I was still young enough not to have questioned anything about my faith, so I certainly didn't have a moment of betrayal like laurashapiro described, and I can see how that would affect your experience. But, like you, I had NO IDEA for years that the books were a Christian allegory; I loved them because I loved the stories, the idea of escaping to another world (which Laura articulated in a much lovelier way). And when I did finally make that connection--or had it made for ( ... )

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danceswithwords December 7 2005, 22:58:12 UTC
I think it's as much of a mistake to say that the books can't be appreciated without coming from a Christian viewpoint as it is to say that the Christian viewpoint is all there is to the books.

This makes perfect sense. I think the root of my frustration is the vague feeling that I'm being told how to read the text--one that was very important to me as a kid--and I resent that. As you say, there are certain principles that are universal, that speak to us as humans rather than (or on top of being) devotees of X religion, so I also get resentful when a small group of religious people try to appropriate those principles as their exclusive domain.

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brynnmck December 8 2005, 05:40:12 UTC
Yeah, and I get just as frustrated by people who are seriously anti-Christian claiming that the books are worthless because of the religious element. And unfortunately, it seems that much of the debate has fallen on one side or the other.

I also meant to say, before I got distracted by the Narnia stuff, that I read Brokeback Mountain for the first time yesterday, and found it extremely powerful. I don't think I've ever read anything by Proulx before, but I was so impressed at how she managed to convey so much from such a limited perspective and with such limited language. It was fascinating. Though, as usual, your much more eloquent analysis makes me feel utterly inadequate, because when I finished the story I was pretty much like, "Wow. That's incredibly sad." And that was the extent of my profundity.

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danceswithwords December 8 2005, 19:33:11 UTC
Yeah, and I get just as frustrated by people who are seriously anti-Christian claiming that the books are worthless because of the religious element.

That also bugs me.

Proulx is a terrific writer. I really liked Accordion Crimes, which is a really interesting take on the American experience. The novel follows an accordion through as it passes in ownership over time from an Italian immigrant to a Mexican-American living on the border in Texas to a Polish-American couple in Chicago, and explores the forgotten eddies and broken lives that made a big part of the country's forward march. I also think Postcards is really interesting because the protagonist commits an act of horrific, unforgivable violence in the first part and then goes on to live out his life, not exactly atoning, but trying to live with himself, and like many of Proulx's characters, he's not particularly self-reflective, so his coping is mostly externally manifested. The Shipping News is quieter, but also beautifully written. It's good stuff--if you're looking ( ... )

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zandra_x December 7 2005, 21:37:04 UTC
Somehow I missed reading any Narnia books when I was young, which is funny considering I spent my childhood with my nose in a book. I'm torn about seeing the movie, maybe because I just watched a Harry Potter and I'm up to here with chirpy upper class children's voices.

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danceswithwords December 8 2005, 01:04:26 UTC
I believe there will be chirpy upper class children's accents all over the place.

I'm very interested in how the books will come across to me as an adult versus my childhood memories of them.

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