Who was Ron Moore and when did he pop up? I had no idea.
I feel more or less the way you do about the whole thing. Although I was happy that Hera got to grow up with her parents and be our Eve, it bothered me that so many other main characters got stuck living out their lives in isolation, no matter how splendid. And I really didn't care for the grand "touched by an angel/robot" finale. I mean, way to take the science out of the science fiction.
Also, how the heck did Helo go from bleeding to death on the Cylon base ship to limping around Tanzania with a rustic walking stick? Either I'm confused or that made no sense at all.
Ron Moore was the schlubby guy with a beard reading the newspaper at the very beginning of the present-day scene. He and David Eick are the two guys in the gruesome little cartoon bumpers at the end of the show. And it was SO LIKE HIM to do something like that.
And I really didn't care for the grand "touched by an angel/robot" finale. I mean, way to take the science out of the science fiction.Yes, this. The show had been moving more and more in that direction for the past two years, unfortunately. I didn't love it either, but I didn't find it surprising that the finale leaned on so much magical resolution. What's especially hilarious is that EJO has been adamant at cons about how committed he was to the show's grounding in realism, and how the minute a rubber-faced alien showed up, he was out of there. And yet, angels are apparently okay
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although they didn't to a very good job of making it clear at first, it became more obvious to me at some point that several months had passed between when they found Earth and those final scenes
Really? I was assuming it was was all within a few days after landing. I'm not sure if that makes a difference in how I feel about it.
I just wrote a long (very long) piece about my reactions on my own journal. Basically, I'm disappointed that there wasn't a single hopeful moment of community in the last half-hour. I was expecting bittersweet, but this seemed excessively bitter.
I'll have to re-watch the ending for the Ron Moore cameo, though! I never would have recognized him, so it didn't bother me.
What's especially hilarious is that EJO has been adamant at cons about how committed he was to the show's grounding in realism, and how the minute a rubber-faced alien showed up, he was out of there.
I had that thought myself! Which is part of why I was so unhappy with Kara's ending in particular. I felt like the underlying quality of the show had been betrayed. Although I suppose they have been moving that way for awhile, I just honestly thought they were going to give it a better reason than that. So apparently Caprica's baby really did die because of love issues?
I agree so very much with your first paragraph. I'm glad it's closed now, and the finale was really the whole show in miniature: excellent start, fumbled ending with some grace notes (IMO, of course!).
Bill Adama got to live out the rest of his days feeling sorry for himself and talking to a dead body, which are two of his favorite things ever
You made me laugh out loud! Oh, Bill, you drama queen. And now he'll never change.
Although I looked at that hilltop and thought, "Hope you didn't lay that cabin foundation up there, because that's a hell of a hike to fresh water, dude!" Also, what's he going to eat?
They are all going to get EATEN BY LIONS on day 2. That's the real ending of the show.
And in thinking about it, I actually think that may have been intentional. I think their intentional dispersal into the existing population (though I agree it has all kinds of troubling colonial overtones) was a form of collective cultural suicide. So it didn't really matter if they survived. What an ending! At least it's consistent with the beginning, since the show did open up with a nuclear holocaust.
I don't know if you've been following asta77's recaps of RDM's episode podcasts, but it became very clear at one point that not only didn't they really know what they were doing, but that half of the cool things that happen on the show happen by accident.
I've been trying to figure out why I wasn't more upset about Kara's end, and I think it's because while I (and a lot of other people) wanted to see her journey as shedding the deaths that haunted her and moving towards a future, RDM was mostly interested in her for her suffering, and kept piling it on. Based on "Home," it would have been a perfectly closed circle to end the show with Adama and Roslin (dying as she was) and Kara and Lee on Earth, looking up at the stars. But I guess he really did want a clean slate; it was a very much darker and less hopeful story than I'd hoped it would be at the beginning.
Yes. I didn't hate this as much as some, but I also didn't like it all that much, for all that certain things led my to cry very hard. However, unlike other shows that made me cry very hard at the end (you're not there yet, and I hope you'll understand when you do, but Babylon 5 was totally one of these), I won't be crying again on the rewatch. Because in the end, I just don't care all that much anymore, and that's Ron Moore's fault.
Like you, I will not be watching Caprica, or anything else BSG related, because I just don't trust the writing. The only reason I stuck BSG out this far was because I knew it was ending soon and I wanted to see how it ended. If I had thought it had more seasons in it I likely would've given up awhile back. I'm not bitter about this show's ending like I was about The X-files, but that's because a) I detached far sooner from this than I did from XF, and b) because of the way XF ended, I am far more wary and careful now
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Yeah, that's where I am too. And I think I would have been much more frustrated with a lot of this season if the show were continuing; as it is, I could tune in to see where it went without worrying that it was a sign of a long, drawn-out deterioration.
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I feel more or less the way you do about the whole thing. Although I was happy that Hera got to grow up with her parents and be our Eve, it bothered me that so many other main characters got stuck living out their lives in isolation, no matter how splendid. And I really didn't care for the grand "touched by an angel/robot" finale. I mean, way to take the science out of the science fiction.
Also, how the heck did Helo go from bleeding to death on the Cylon base ship to limping around Tanzania with a rustic walking stick? Either I'm confused or that made no sense at all.
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And I really didn't care for the grand "touched by an angel/robot" finale. I mean, way to take the science out of the science fiction.Yes, this. The show had been moving more and more in that direction for the past two years, unfortunately. I didn't love it either, but I didn't find it surprising that the finale leaned on so much magical resolution. What's especially hilarious is that EJO has been adamant at cons about how committed he was to the show's grounding in realism, and how the minute a rubber-faced alien showed up, he was out of there. And yet, angels are apparently okay ( ... )
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Really? I was assuming it was was all within a few days after landing. I'm not sure if that makes a difference in how I feel about it.
I just wrote a long (very long) piece about my reactions on my own journal. Basically, I'm disappointed that there wasn't a single hopeful moment of community in the last half-hour. I was expecting bittersweet, but this seemed excessively bitter.
I'll have to re-watch the ending for the Ron Moore cameo, though! I never would have recognized him, so it didn't bother me.
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I had that thought myself! Which is part of why I was so unhappy with Kara's ending in particular. I felt like the underlying quality of the show had been betrayed. Although I suppose they have been moving that way for awhile, I just honestly thought they were going to give it a better reason than that. So apparently Caprica's baby really did die because of love issues?
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Bill Adama got to live out the rest of his days feeling sorry for himself and talking to a dead body, which are two of his favorite things ever
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Although I looked at that hilltop and thought, "Hope you didn't lay that cabin foundation up there, because that's a hell of a hike to fresh water, dude!" Also, what's he going to eat?
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And in thinking about it, I actually think that may have been intentional. I think their intentional dispersal into the existing population (though I agree it has all kinds of troubling colonial overtones) was a form of collective cultural suicide. So it didn't really matter if they survived. What an ending! At least it's consistent with the beginning, since the show did open up with a nuclear holocaust.
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I've been trying to figure out why I wasn't more upset about Kara's end, and I think it's because while I (and a lot of other people) wanted to see her journey as shedding the deaths that haunted her and moving towards a future, RDM was mostly interested in her for her suffering, and kept piling it on. Based on "Home," it would have been a perfectly closed circle to end the show with Adama and Roslin (dying as she was) and Kara and Lee on Earth, looking up at the stars. But I guess he really did want a clean slate; it was a very much darker and less hopeful story than I'd hoped it would be at the beginning.
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This almost made me snort water out my nose!!!
And just...yeah. Wow. I don't think I have ever been more disappointed in a finale of anything. So much fail!
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Like you, I will not be watching Caprica, or anything else BSG related, because I just don't trust the writing. The only reason I stuck BSG out this far was because I knew it was ending soon and I wanted to see how it ended. If I had thought it had more seasons in it I likely would've given up awhile back. I'm not bitter about this show's ending like I was about The X-files, but that's because a) I detached far sooner from this than I did from XF, and b) because of the way XF ended, I am far more wary and careful now ( ... )
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