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Apr 09, 2008 19:30

Time is moving in weird ways for me right now. Mostly way, way too fast. But there's new The Office tomorrow! SO EXCITING. And it will be here in the blink of an eye.

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Babylon 5 1.17 - 1.18 )

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vipersweb April 10 2008, 03:46:49 UTC
I have no reason to believe that the writers had planned, that early on, for Anders to be a Cylon.
I thought none of the "seven" actually knew who the final 5 were. D'eanna obsessed about it until she finally saw the face of one and apologized for what had happened to him/her (I'm assuming it was Tigh considering he lost his eye on New Cap). And Caprica!Six tells Roslin in 4x01 that she doesn't think of them. I assumed that she therefore couldn't identify any of them without visually seeing them and using her Cylon senses to do so.

But going back to the originally referenced scene, I assumed that the Cylons knew about the Resistance and had a good idea of who the members were, or they had interrogated the black chick who ended up hooked the machines before they hooked her up.

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danceswithwords April 10 2008, 04:04:21 UTC
I'm not sure I understand your first point, since the Cylons, as you point out, didn't know who the other models were, but that doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not the writers had planned it out.

But yes, it is plausible that Simon had interrogated Sue Shawn. I like that there are new interpretations to that whole arc, though, the Cylon-led resistance. (On New Caprica, pretty much the entire resistance was led by Cylons, after all.)

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molly_may April 10 2008, 04:44:58 UTC
Oh, I like Karen Joy Fowler! It's been so long since I read Sister Noon that I can't remember much about it, but her brand new book, Wit's End, is on my to-be-read-very-soon pile.

I'm kind of impressed you made it through 400 pages of Outlander. I think I only made it up to about page 100; apparently, I like my romances to be straight-up fantasy fare, minus the grime.

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danceswithwords April 10 2008, 16:55:57 UTC
I had sort of dismissed The Jane Austen Book Club because of the hype; I hadn't realized it was written by Fowler, and now it's on my list.

I think I only made it up to about page 100; apparently, I like my romances to be straight-up fantasy fare, minus the grime.

So, too much romance for me, too much gritty realism for you? It seems those books can't win. Yet I know they were tremendously popular. Hm.

I probably should have given up earlier, but I kept getting sucked back by the political intrigue. And then Jamie and Claire would disappear into the bushes for more improbable sex and I'd be like, "OH COME ON." (In the manner of GOB Bluth, of course.)

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pellucid April 10 2008, 13:35:22 UTC
I'm pretty sure the telepath girl wins the worst actor award for the entire series (or at least through 5.06, which is as far as I've seen). Not that there isn't plenty more bad acting to come, but she was a true low.

And yay with the B5!!! Things are about to really get going!

As for BSG, I cling to a belief that even if the writers have not actually intended certain things from the start, they sometimes accomplish more than they intended. I also choose to believe they're decent readers of their own text and can recognize the meaning that's there and pull it together in ways that will make sense. At least, enough of it makes sense to me that I have to conclude this meaning is actually there in the text, whether it was all planned out that way from the beginning or not.

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danceswithwords April 10 2008, 17:09:44 UTC
Not that there isn't plenty more bad acting to come, but she was a true low.

I find this oddly comforting.

even if the writers have not actually intended certain things from the start, they sometimes accomplish more than they intended. I also choose to believe they're decent readers of their own text and can recognize the meaning that's there and pull it together in ways that will make sense.

I think one of the signs of organic story development is that even if the writers haven't planned things out from the beginning, the new twists make retroactive sense because they're built on existing foundations rather than coming out of nowhere.

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laurashapiro April 10 2008, 14:11:26 UTC
Neroon's first reaction to Sinclair--wanting to punch him in the face--is one that we, the audience, can perhaps sympathize with a little too much, but by the end of the episode he had come to accept and even enjoy Michael O'Hare's acting as a piece of surreal performance art

LOL!

You pick up so much whenever you watch. I'm impressed, for example, that you remembered the earlier mentions of friction on Mars, since that's the sort of thing I tend to gloss right over until the actual rebellion happens.

I can't say much more here without spoiling you to hell and back, though. (: See you tonight!

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danceswithwords April 10 2008, 17:12:58 UTC
I've been paying a lot of attention to the hints of Earth's political landscape from the beginning because I find it pretty interesting, and because there seems to be some sort of loose theme coalescing around the problems of empire: the Centauri's decayed remnant of an empire, the Narn empire, and some factions on Earth wanting to stretch to fit the new galaxy, and to dominate rather than make friendships.

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laurashapiro April 10 2008, 17:28:00 UTC
You are the *ideal* viewer of this show.

And la la la I can't say anything else here la la la...

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raislak April 10 2008, 17:27:55 UTC
B5 1.17 "Legacies"
yes even I admit the cute face has nothing to do with acting yourself out of a paper bag. I also liked the different "insights" into the minds of other races. Perhaps the Narn Mind is so weird because they can't use telepathy? I personally like the final exchange between Sinclair and Neroon, the ultimate we agree to disagree with a dash of respect to add a subtle flavor. (Sorry watched Top Chef marathon last night).

1.18 "Voice in the Wilderness pt.1" Ah we start to get into some areas I enjoyed most about S1, but I'll wait till later for most comments. Yeah the Mars thing has started heating up and in a series of DC comics JMS told the story of early days of Sinclair and Garabaldi on Mars. Let me know if you want to hear about it. I always love Londo's "use" of earth sayings mostly his vision of what a cat is.

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enterlinemedia April 10 2008, 22:26:06 UTC
I read that comic book storyline of B5. fantastic. I also read many of the novels too. The original material based on the JMS outlines are the best.

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raislak April 10 2008, 22:43:41 UTC
True I bought all the novels and only found about 3 that "blew chunks"

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danceswithwords April 11 2008, 17:09:43 UTC
Perhaps the Narn Mind is so weird because they can't use telepathy?

I like the idea that it's just literally alien--something humans don't have much reference for, for all that they do have some common ground.

It's good to know there is decent tie-in material out there, as opposed to crappy novelizations.

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