Comments | danceswithwords: "Oh by the way, you'll be working with a Mountie that's got a wolf who's a florist."

danceswithwords

"Oh by the way, you'll be working with a Mountie that's got a wolf who's a florist."

Dec 02, 2007 17:54

The weather today has been gloomy and gray and cold and it's already been dark for a while and I am so ready to see the other side of the winter solstice. I worked some very long hours last week, and there's just something about being at work five hours after sunset and getting re-acquainted with the night cleaning crew that I'm finding more ( Read more... )

my stargate is pastede on yay, due south, meme sheepage

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sdwolfpup December 3 2007, 05:06:20 UTC

plays well into the subtle shift in roles Fraser seems to be taking with this Ray, drawing him out instead of the other way around

I find that, besides the wackier overall tone of the show, is one of the biggest changes, IMO, the later seasons. Fraser becomes much more the emotionally/situationally stable one, leading and guiding Kowalski, instead of being led and guided by Vecchio. It's an interesting shift.

Also, greensilver and I were also talking about starting up B5 after the holidays! Looks like there might be a small renaissance in our corner of LJ. :)

danceswithwords December 3 2007, 17:12:10 UTC

Fraser becomes much more the emotionally/situationally stable one, leading and guiding Kowalski, instead of being led and guided by Vecchio

I'm definitely picking up on that; you're right that it's an interesting shift, because Ray V was so gregarious and outwardly focused, but Ray K is much more interior and strange, and he seems to force Fraser out of himself more.

I wonder how hard it would be to try to coordinate a watch/rewatch? Even if actually watching together proves unworkable over a group (which I suspect is the case), maybe we could start a community to discuss episodes and try to keep pace? Hm. *puts on thinking cap*

50mm December 3 2007, 18:18:38 UTC

start a community to discuss episodes and try to keep pace

That's what I had in mind, versus literally watching all at the same time via chat or something (which is fun, but crazy to coordinate, etc). Nothing formal, more low key.

ETA: er, basically, I enjoy reading your ep reactions and since it's been so long since I've watched, I would re-watch to be able to keep up with the discussion.

danceswithwords December 10 2007, 08:53:39 UTC

I think it's something that's definitely worth exploring. If we can swing it, it looks like laurashapiro and I will actually be watching it live, though, which is why I was pondering.

asta77 December 3 2007, 05:07:17 UTC

4. Name an actor who would make you less likely to watch a show:

Rachel Fucking Nichols.

So say we all!

And I remember before the start of the season how concerned you were about Chuck. Hee!

danceswithwords December 3 2007, 17:12:41 UTC

And I remember before the start of the season how concerned you were about Chuck.

I know! I was SO WRONG.

dragonflymuse December 3 2007, 14:41:30 UTC

It's a very different motivation for becoming a cop than Ray V's family tradition of police service

I don't think his family had a tradition of police service. Ray has said more than once that his father hated cops (which I think was a big motivator for Ray to join the force) and an uncle of his (from Some Like It Red) seemed to have had Mob connections in his past.

I agree with practically all of your comments. I have only watched S3/4 once, but I found alot of the plotting facile and, in some cases, hokey/jokey. That, moreso than the RayK for RayV element, has kept me from popping those DVDs back into my player for a second go.

danceswithwords December 3 2007, 17:16:04 UTC

For some reason, I was thinking that Ray's father had been a cop, which is what I get for going so long between episodes, but you're right--it was more of an anti-tradition, sticking it to the old man.

I can deal with goofy plotting in certain circumstances and not others, and I'm not yet sure where this season of dS falls on that spectrum for me.

brynnmck December 5 2007, 05:21:43 UTC

It kind of cracks me up (in a bitter way) that I am STILL bitterer about Alias than any show I've ever watched. It is a bottomless well, apparently! (And GI Joe, really? Heeee. Excellent.)

Arrested Development is almost impossible not to quote. I use "come on" at least once a day, most days ( ... )

brynnmck December 5 2007, 05:33:03 UTC

Oh, and I also wanted to say that making Kowalski a huge dork--especially the extent of dorkiness/awkwardness we see in the flashback--was one of the smartest things the writers could've done to make viewers accept him, IMO. I obviously had some trauma around Vecchio leaving, but still, how do you dislike Kowalski? He's a big, dorky puppydog! Very smart, writers.

danceswithwords December 11 2007, 06:04:02 UTC

I am STILL bitterer about Alias than any show I've ever watched. It is a bottomless well, apparently!

I am too, and I still can't articulate exactly why. It was a terrible object lesson in how a creator can stumble into a brilliant idea without ever actually understanding it.

In a lot of ways, I think Vecchio prepared Fraser to be the kind of friend that Fraser is to Kowalski, and I like the progression of that.

I really like that idea. I think one of the things that really worked about "Eclipse" was showing Ray in a personal space that was every bit as solitary and eccentric, in its own way, as Fraser's old place, and then giving him a quixotic obsession, because it strengthened the parallels and facilitated the transfer of roles--you could see Fraser recognizing something of himself in Ray.