Happy Thanksgiving, or Happy Today, whichever applies.

[dameruth]

So, I'm getting a mild cold, which means I'm out for the visit with elektras's family (seeing as how they are some of the cookin'-est folks around, this is a sad thing), but I'm being philosophical about it in that today I only have to go into work and feed fish (ditto tomorrow, before the weekend lab care person returns and can take over), then I can come

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[kholly]

Happy T-day. Feel better soon.

[countessaleska]

I just stumbled in at one am :) great party and great food.....SHannons mom made a plate to take home to you, its in the fridge so if you are up before me eat it up :) The rice dish is IRanian, all the others are traditional.

Tell you all about it later : glad we didnt wake you when I came in-- the cats were going insane. When I was in the kitchen, I could hear tippy complaining oudly from behind my closed door to get her. And fry of course wanted attention and, if he could get it, tippy's attention too :) I finally got BOTH cats their food and averted loud confrontation by finally picking tippy up and carrying her. I tried to feed fry to distract him from blocking my door, and instead tippy blocked his food dish to him! Goodness.

[dameruth]

Heh. Feelin' a little better after a day resting. And, as you can tell, countessaleska brought me a plate of goodies from elektras's party, so all was not lost. :D Thanks!

[ladymustapha]

Happy Thanking Bird Day back atcha!

I understand the guilt angle, truly I do. Growing up in Blackfoot country, learning and understanding their culture, I realize how sad it is that the whole thing got trampled on. I have a very specific way of dealing with that guilt. For me, the necessary thing is to watch an episode of Buffy, the Vampire Slayer called "Pangs" - the Thanksgiving episode. Willow does indeed get all huffy and guilty over the Indigenous People question, to which Spike says "Look, you won, they lost, get over it. Caesar did the same thing, but he didn't go around whining 'I came, I conqueored, I felt really bad about it.' You had better weapons and you won."

Besides, I don't see why I should feel guilty for something I didn't do. *grumble, grumble*

I know, it doesn't really work. Being white we have to feel guilty about killing Indians and enslaving blacks and destroying the atmosphere and all that wonderful stuff. But I liked Spike's pointing out the historical accuracy and even normality of the situation. He is

[dameruth]

Eh, I wasn't really talking so much about *guilt.* White Liberal Guilt is a kinda pointless, even self-serving, phenomenon that ultimately doesn't do anyone any good. I was more talking about just sitting down, thinking about it, and acknowledging both the good and the bad of how this society came to be. Contemplation, not guilt.

I'm not gonna feel guilty about stuff I didn't do, but I do think it's important to understand how the past shapes the present, and to try to go into the future with one's eyes open (hopefully not repeating past mistakes, or making new ones).

*shrugs* My approach, anyway.

Hey, the pie is my fave part of ritual sacrifices! :D

[ladymustapha]

Maybe I said it wrong... I didn't mean that I felt guilty, but that I am overly familiar with the fact that others attempt to make us feel guilty. I know I didn't do that stuff, and I don't self-flagellate about it. I just sit back and enjoy the food.

And history always repeats. There is nothing new under the sun. These ideas are both comforting and terrifying, but not guilt inspiring.

[shdwfyre37]

Ahh, the sickness spreads (stills trying to get over my 'experience' with it)...hope you're feeling better!

And I have to agree with Cosby-logic--there is nothing wrong with chocolate cake for breakfast, or any other dessert really...standing tradition in my family for years! (Been long time since I listened to that skit... "Monster Movies' and "My Brother Russell' were my favs when Dad would put the LPs on.)

I wish I'd had the Martha poem for my turkey-day festivities -- 23 people, 2 dogs and a small kitchen -- my mom and aunt would have loved reading it!! :)