Wow - you wrote that entire section without admitting that we both found Doctor Who more interesting than a girl-on-girl-on-girl snogfest! Our secret is-
what if the g/g/g snogfest was in a Dr Who ep? It could happen these days, in fact I think they done it on Torchwood, which may explain why you don't like it
Yeah, in cases like this people seem to forget they are not in highschool at a weekend booze-up and/or stoner party where that sort of behaviour is kinda expected cause it's new for those involved and they don't know when to/not to do it.
Why can't people just grow up. It's one thing to be smashed at a party and you're all in a spa and some of the girls want to compare their nipples, but if in mid-conversation a couple of people wanna start to get jiggy with it in front you that just not cool!
For me, it'd all depend on who was asking and my mood at the time. If two girls I was interested in and comfortable with asked me to join in or watch, I'd probably say yes and go with whatever level of involvement felt right for me at the time. I do like watching people have fun, and I'd kind of like it from that aspect and it'd certainly be nice to be asked.
If two women I liked and one I was less comfortable with made the offer, I may figure on watching, as opposed to any involvement, but I'd be a lot more likely to say an outright no. But it's all really nebulous and again, depends on what feels right.
Also, there's no allowance in your question for whether or not Grant or Simon have offered to talk to me about how dalek history works in the light of the new series.
Lets assume, for the sake of this question, that NOBODY has asked you ANYTHINg to do with Dr WHo or fandom and in actual fact your the only male at the entire convention.
having been one of the women that you were describing, I wish to apologise. I was not aware that you were trapped, and would not have been doing what I was had I realised it. I also have very different memories - that both of you were invited to be involved. But, as any memory that old is pretty vague, I would not wish to be quoted.
One of the reasons I mentioned that specific incident is that it's one of those cases of reverse sexism, as in, it's generally assumed that guys are gunna automatically love that sort of situation. To a fair extent that's true, but it's amazing how often women will do stuff to or around guys that in many cases if it were the other way around, we'd be told off, called sleazy, etc.
I should be clear that I'm not accusing you of that sort of behaviour, and please don't feel too bad, for a start my memory is a little vague on details as well. You may well have offered and I've since forgotten that, and I can think of all sorts of reasons I may not have acted one way or another - didn't hear, offer was too vague for me to be certain I was being invited, I wasn't comfortable in that particular situation or with one or more of the people involved, I couldn't check with my partner to see if it was ok... the list goes on
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Of course, assuming you were there from memory means we certainly know you pretty well, so you'd have to know us well enough in return to realise there could have been naked people dancing beneath signs reading "Grant and Danny are invited to be involved" and we probably wouldn't have picked up on it. ("What was that? I think that neon sign's trying to tell me something... sorry, what were you saying about Sylvester McCoy?")
Yep! See the My Sexuality post for some of the reasons for me hesitation to leap at chances. I have had a girl clad only in underpants sitting on my lap, kissing my neck, and I had no idea what would be considered appropriate behaviour on my part - so I sat there rather than risking a wrong move.
Mind you, that was years ago.
These days I would at least tentatively caress her back... while waiting for it all to go horribly wrong.
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Why can't people just grow up. It's one thing to be smashed at a party and you're all in a spa and some of the girls want to compare their nipples, but if in mid-conversation a couple of people wanna start to get jiggy with it in front you that just not cool!
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You could make a good argument that anyone in our spa late at night at a fairly drunken party is at least hoping for some nipple comparison.
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If two women I liked and one I was less comfortable with made the offer, I may figure on watching, as opposed to any involvement, but I'd be a lot more likely to say an outright no. But it's all really nebulous and again, depends on what feels right.
Also, there's no allowance in your question for whether or not Grant or Simon have offered to talk to me about how dalek history works in the light of the new series.
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umm, but in summary, sorry, sorry sorry.
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One of the reasons I mentioned that specific incident is that it's one of those cases of reverse sexism, as in, it's generally assumed that guys are gunna automatically love that sort of situation. To a fair extent that's true, but it's amazing how often women will do stuff to or around guys that in many cases if it were the other way around, we'd be told off, called sleazy, etc.
I should be clear that I'm not accusing you of that sort of behaviour, and please don't feel too bad, for a start my memory is a little vague on details as well. You may well have offered and I've since forgotten that, and I can think of all sorts of reasons I may not have acted one way or another - didn't hear, offer was too vague for me to be certain I was being invited, I wasn't comfortable in that particular situation or with one or more of the people involved, I couldn't check with my partner to see if it was ok... the list goes on ( ... )
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Mind you, that was years ago.
These days I would at least tentatively caress her back... while waiting for it all to go horribly wrong.
Kind of like Silver Nemesis.
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