Comments | crowgirl13: Mixed Drinks: Poetry and Fandom Love, well stirred

crowgirl13

Mixed Drinks: Poetry and Fandom Love, well stirred

Jun 27, 2006 19:32

I love Pablo Neruda. He makes it so *easy*, with his lush and seductive verse. I've been a sucker for Neruda since I first heard his untranslated poems read at an open poetry reading, some ten years ago. No matter what language [there are some marvelous translators who have stepped up to the plate on his behalf], his words are just...mouth-watering ( Read more... )

school, recs: poetry, yammering me

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eponine119 June 28 2006, 01:59:31 UTC

Those are just lovely!

crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 02:29:17 UTC

Aren't they though? I rather thought they captured the general feeling of the Jack/Sawyer dynamic right now. Maybe these will provide some inspiration...

Or at least bribe some muses. :D

fosfomifira June 28 2006, 03:15:51 UTC

Yay, Neruda!

It's been a while since I last read Neruda. I always think of his love poems as man-woman love. It's weird reading them translated, especially because of the way English tends to be more gender-neutral, so to speak.

crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 03:54:39 UTC

I second that yay!

English is a bit limiting with its gender neutrality. In this case, I think it works to the slasher's advantage.

Funny...I was thinking of you when I posted this, wondering what you thought about the translations. :D

fosfomifira June 28 2006, 04:34:53 UTC

I'm gonna check against my copy first thing tomorrow. :)

crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 04:45:28 UTC

Excellent! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the matter!

*hugs*

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cynthia_arrow June 28 2006, 05:29:27 UTC

Why is it I've never read Neruda?

Those were beautiful, such sensual language. The only word I can come up with is concupiscent, which doesn't exactly sum it up, because that feels somehow tawdry and these are not; they're just...starkly real while flowing so fluidly that the harsher, darker parts catch you by surprise.

Sorry. I ramble when I'm drunk. Thanks for sharing. Now I'll have to go seek out some Neruda.

crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 20:49:36 UTC

I don't know how you're missed him, but we can remedy that oversight easily. Here's a link to get you started:
http://www.public.asu.edu/~nielle/neruda.htm The two books I recc'ed are excellent too.

Neruda truly is amazing, yeah? And very difficult to describe - I think because he balances so perfectly between the earthly and the sublime.

No need to apologize, as I am a rambling type myself :D. 'Tis my pleasure to share the poetry love and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

matilda36 June 28 2006, 05:34:41 UTC

*Blinks*

these poems are so Jack and Sawyer...

I always found English tendency to gender neutrality an advantage rather than a problem. It gives you more room to dream...and to protect your dreams.

crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 20:59:52 UTC

I *know*! Isn't it just *crazy*?!

[well, either that or we are crazy fangirls...which is also quite likely.]

Good point about the gender neutrality question. I do, however, appreciate the poetic nuances possible in gendered languages.:D

matilda36 June 29 2006, 05:29:29 UTC

*grins*

Squeeing fangirls us? I thought that we were boring drunken geeks... *winks*

Do you know what I have always found the English language greatest shortcoming (and paradoxically the thing that has made it so widely spoken)?

Verb tenses. English hasn't got enough verb tenses to think the complexity of life in...

crowgirl13 June 29 2006, 13:43:36 UTC

We might be both drunken and geeks, but we are *not* boring. :D And yes...squeeing abounds. Which makes me quite happy.

Verb tenses! Exactly!! And not enough ways to talk about things like feelings, emotions, spiritual stuff... It's a very concrete language that is good at compartmentalizing and creating boundaries/imposing limitations on the world.

Pink allergy bodhifox June 28 2006, 15:32:01 UTC

The interior of the Ohio Statehouse in Columbus has been restored to its original condition. The walls are painted pink, because up through the mid 19th century pink was considered to be a "manly" color, akin to red. Pink was one of Mozart's favorite colors as well, which gives me barely enough information to justify a pink polo shirt. Don't be scared of it!

Re: Pink allergy crowgirl13 June 28 2006, 21:04:00 UTC

*hides under the table*
Figures that you'd latch onto the pink thing.

Though, all of that historical info is new to me and quite interesting. It also explains why the costumers for the "Magnificent Seven" TV show, outfitted Vin Tanner *points to icon* in pink.

A pink polo shirt? Really? Huh. Well, the sunflowers worked, so I suppose you can swing pink too.