Frank: "It's almost as if, in them, they had a kind of... signal. "

Dec 20, 2011 19:43

Rebecca, on the phone: "He's not Agent Gideon, is he?"
- "No Way Out II", Criminal Minds

"Intuition is always right in at least two important ways;
It is always in response to something.
it always has your best interest at heart"
― Gavin de Becker, The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence

Trigger Warning: for PTSD, ( Read more... )

discussion: characters, character: spencer reid, character: jason gideon, character: elle greenaway

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full_metal_ox December 21 2011, 01:03:53 UTC
Her specialty area stems from having been raped at age 19, and the assailant never having been caught.

Although the above statement, never having been expressly confirmed in the narrative, remains Word of God, that would've put Elle in the right age range for it to have happened at college--which explains the circumstances under which she went Cowboy Cop.

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I totally count it as canon gsyh December 21 2011, 01:17:58 UTC
It would explain so much of Elle's defensiveness, and my ire towards people who just write her off as a bitch ( ... )

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full_metal_ox December 22 2011, 23:30:37 UTC
Is "weetabo" a variant of "weeaboo"? (I'd always understood the latter term to denote a Westerner not of Asian descent obsessed with all things Japanese, but never got the impression that such a person was by definition white--unlike the term it superceded, "Wapanese.")

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My definition of woobie gsyh December 21 2011, 02:30:49 UTC
...is someone who is not only frequently victimized or in a very bad situation, but the woobie in question is specifically vulnerable, psychological so (taking them into a better situation would not necessary help).

Fantastic Four: Reeds Richards (especially zombieverse, I can't believe that fandom remembered Richards as the jerk for turning everyone into zombies - when great General Nick Fury was the one who had Richards autopsy the zombies alone RIGHT AFTER Richards's children were eaten)

The Avengers: Tony Stark Suicide Bingo...and then ( ... )

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Re: My definition of woobie gsyh December 21 2011, 03:08:08 UTC
Give me some example of Gideon 'whining', other than his BSOD-ish moment in Fisher King over the lost of his safe space cabin (which would later on be parallel by Elle's remark about her not feeling safe at home - the Fisher King episode was not a trauma in itself (or the biggest issue in itself) it was what it dug up ( ... )

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nwjarvis December 21 2011, 17:54:36 UTC
You really can't give too much weight to preliminary character descriptions; they're like a "first draft" of characters and are almost always modified before the characters are finalized ( ... )

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full_metal_ox December 22 2011, 23:20:24 UTC
Garcia was originally characterized as a very overweight Hispanic man - obvious change there.

For whatever it might be worth, there's no reason that Version 1.0 (his name and description perhaps homage to the late Grateful Dead guitarist?) couldn't have been her stepdad.

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citjara December 23 2011, 00:32:25 UTC
From your keyboard to my comment!! I couldn't agree more, not only, but especially on Elle. She seemed to disassemble out of nowhere - because she did fairly good in the three eps/cases before then. She wasn't terribly afraid when she confroted the rapist - she wanted revenge.

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gsyh December 23 2011, 01:21:55 UTC
When I remember Elle, I remember the way she explains that rapists are cowards who target women and children all the way back in "Broken Mirror".
It's just, the way she said it, it sounded like she was reminding herself too.

Plus the way she said she could remember the Fisher King's fingers moving inside her.

People who resort to a life of crime are failures at life, but sometimes it's hard to remember that when you are a victim of violence.

I tend to take additional material like prelims, as canon until disproved otherwise.

It's my pet canon that Gideon didn't become estranged from his son until after his son was older, like, when his son was in his teens. ...and whether it happened in the same time or not, he cut off from everyone (except Reid) after Boston.

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