Hollie, I've been thinking a lot more about the people I miss lately. You're right there at the top along with Mina and other Holly. I haven't seen or heard from Mina in almost 8 months. I really want to know what's been going on with her. I've also thought a lot about Miguel too, but that's because Tiff's doing a play with him so I keep hearing about him
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I almost called you yesterday to see if you wanted to play with me, but then I thought, "No, she'll just think I'm calling because of the LJ thing..." I had a free day and felt like hanging out with someone. I'm free on Thursday and Friday this week
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I will do that. Also I am pretty free on Friday, but on Thursday I work both jobs. Tell Mina I miss her and that I'm totally lame, but I will call her eventually.
Re: I'm only acknowledging that I have read this...crazeyhaleyMarch 28 2007, 04:51:58 UTC
This is part of why the group isn't close. For one thing you make this statement and all it does is tell me you disagree. I don't know which points you do or don't agree, I don't know why you disagree, and (this is what really pisses me off) you'll probably never even tell me. You know how I'd probably find out what you really thought or felt? You'd talk with Courtney and maybe Courtney would tell me, if I were lucky, but most likely she would tell Taarna who would then tell me. Or maybe you would tell Kuma, and Kuma would explain it to Coletti who would then tell Luis, and of course Tiffany would then know and she would explain it to me. BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE BALLS TO JUST SAY WHAT THEY REALLY FEEL OR REALLY THINK, STRAIGHT OUT, WITHOUT ANY MISCOMMUNICATION
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It's definitely a boy thing, but I think we only see the crazy. I know Coletti and Luis can have a serious conversation, and I think I've had a few with Kuma. The only serious conversation I've seen from Harker was opinion based (i.e. politics). Although there was that ride up to Monterrey. It was serious and crazy(mostly because of ninja ooh haws and stopping to use some random persons bathroom).
Also, I don't think the group's so bad off that they wouldn't notice you being gone from the city. I need to know when you guys are leaving leaving, but have time for a goodbye and cry party.
We have had some great times in this group, as the group binder can attest to. Even for all the problems we've had-I wouldn't change the past. I just think that all of our situations are changing and the group as it used to be can't really adapt to our changes. That's why we've got to find a new way to fit our friends into our lives.
I'll chime in here some, but I have a hell of a lot more to say in my own journal, so i'll keep it brief. Any of you who feel that our level of friendship has stayed the same over the course of high school graduation to...well now, are delusional. That is a fact, i'm sorry if you think it's not. I'm not talking about on an individual to individual basis, i'm talking about as a group period. The proof is simple, look at the pictures. When I think back to those memories, I can't help but smile because of how much fun I had. Now, I can't remember the last time I had a memorable experience with the group. Two events stand out in my mind, Relay for life, the first one where we hung out in the tent and then slept over at Haley's Mom's house, and Yosimite. As much as I am opposed to camping and outdoorsey stuff, that was the most fun i've ever had with any of my friends period. Even still, another one was one of the days where we just hung out at the park. That too, was a hell of a lot of fun, I remember an intense political
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Those were really great times. They're priceless, but I don't want that to be the end. I think if we can come to terms with the fact that we don't all love each other peachy kean and that we will disagree now and in the future, then we can start building a friendship that will survive adulthood. I think at the very least though, we need to acknowledge that the group is different. Whether we find new ways to stay close or not is up to everyone individually.
Re: This is a long oneraziehMarch 28 2007, 05:52:13 UTC
I am not friends with Jesse and Courtney anymore. I will not make any attempt to hide it, and for anyone that was not aware, now you know. My decision to not be Jesse's friend anymore came after much, much, much deliberation on my part. It did not come easy, and it has not been easy. But it was ultimately the best choice (my reasons for this are too many to list here, so I'd rather not). The fall out with Courtney has simply been in response to Jesse, as she does not feel compelled to be a friend of someone who does not care for her boyfriend. Mind you, this is not an unreasonable conclusion to arrive at. However, the fact that she and I were friends long before she even knew Jesse complicates the issue for me a little. But alas, it is the way it is and so be it
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Re: This is a long oneraziehMarch 28 2007, 05:53:00 UTC
Haley addresses this same point. She addresses it a little differently. I would like to expand upon her point. Due to a stubborn, unyielding, no-man-left-behind mentality, setting up hangouts everyone could attend became exceedingly difficult when everyone got lives (which, by the way, was a good thing). And I would like to agree with Haley in that in a group of friends such as ours, it should not be a problem if occasionally people hangout in smaller portions. Afterall, in a group as large as ours it is nearly impossible (and has become exceedingly so) to find something that everyone is going to like to do. But when did it become acceptable to leave behind those people that did express an interest in the chosen activity! And this has been going on for a long time. Yes, I am often invited to certain activities to which I am forced to reply "you can start without me" or "you can go without me." Afterall, I'm not about to tell anyone that he/she cannot do something without me. I just never thought that this would result in my friends
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Re: This is a long oneraziehMarch 28 2007, 05:53:18 UTC
I don't know where we went wrong, Kuma. Just a little over a year ago I called you from San Francisco and enthusiastically asked you to be one of my groomsmen. And I really wanted you to be one of my groomsmen. There was no doubt in my mind, the moment I decided to propose to Tiffany, that you were going to be one of my groomsmen. And you accepted, and I was glad. But looking back, I don’t think you quite understood then or understand now what it means to be a groomsman. A groomsman is one of the most important people in a groom’s life. By making you a groomsman, I acknowledged you as an important presence in my life. It is an honor to be a groomsman. When I bestowed that honor upon you, it was my way of telling you, as the old Budweiser commercials went: “I love you, man.” Looking back now, I don’t know if I was just deluded, or if things have really gotten that bad since then. I can only express how I feel, for I truly know nothing of what goes on in your head. Not to steal what Haley said (as I believe she stole the words out of my
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Also, I don't think the group's so bad off that they wouldn't notice you being gone from the city. I need to know when you guys are leaving leaving, but have time for a goodbye and cry party.
We have had some great times in this group, as the group binder can attest to. Even for all the problems we've had-I wouldn't change the past. I just think that all of our situations are changing and the group as it used to be can't really adapt to our changes. That's why we've got to find a new way to fit our friends into our lives.
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