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Aug 25, 2005 10:58

A Serenity filter.

I'll start: Book got completely screwed, didn't he?

serenity, films, firefly

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 10:04:23 UTC
Book got completely screwed, didn't he?

Well, yes. But, given the story and the structure, I'm really not sure he could have got much more screen time without it seeming unecessary. Since the film more or less had the pace spot on, I'm not sure you can complain about Book from any position other than the fan's. (Cue the exchange we had last night.)

And can I just say that seeing Mal as (reputedly) originally intended was a pleasure?

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snowking August 25 2005, 10:14:07 UTC
And can I just say that seeing Mal as (reputedly) originally intended was a pleasure?

In a towel with bedhair?

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 10:14:55 UTC
Exactly!

His hair was longer than in the show. OMGTHEYISCHANGINGOURSHOWFORTHEMASSIESS!!!1!

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veggiesu August 25 2005, 21:14:31 UTC
*swoon*

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snowking August 25 2005, 10:14:28 UTC
And Wash got the shaft. *sob*

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cellardoor28 August 25 2005, 10:15:16 UTC
Por ded Wash!!!

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danmilburn August 25 2005, 10:16:16 UTC
And the dinosaurs still on the controls at the end! *sobs more*

I mean I thought it was upsetting enough watching Serenity get smashed up like that..

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snowking August 25 2005, 10:19:51 UTC
I know! Who will play with them now? *weeps openly*

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andrewducker August 25 2005, 10:26:13 UTC
Wash did, indeed, get screwed. And in a nasty, over-too-quickly, no time for grieving way. Great way to kill him off, but I'll miss him, he was probably my favourite character, and woefully underused except in War Stories.

I have only one change I'd make to the film, but I'll post that on my own journal tonight.

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 10:28:28 UTC
I'll miss him

Fillion told us that Joss has said he finds it hard to imagine another film without Wash or Book. The panted one added that Joss is "a clever bastard", so we shouldn't discount the possibility.

Hmm.

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coalescent August 25 2005, 10:37:18 UTC
On the film vs. tv front, thinning the cast helps him out a bit, though. I really do wonder how much the film will be comprehensible to people who haven't seen Firefly.

One thing I loved: the number of scenes where there were three or four different things going on at once. Example: when Inara calls Mal. We have the awkwardness of the Inara/Mal thing; the amusement of the rest of the crew watching; and the uneasy knowledge that Inara basically has a gun to her head. Very nicely done.

Do we think they changed the River/Simon escape story too much? Or if they didn't change it, Simon knew a lot more than he was letting on ...

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 10:44:33 UTC
There were a number of trademark Joss scenes - Jayne and oe continuing the conversation about the grenades whilst Mal moved on, for example - that really set the film up as intelligent and multi-layered. This may or may not appeal to the mainstream. On the surface, it's a typical sci-fi romp. Now, people may be all Fox-like when it turns out to be different, or be thankful that here, finally, is a film with intelligence. I'm not sure which it's going to be yet. A lot will depend, I think, on the initial reviews in October (which is why this slow building up of expectation and credibility has been so very clever a marketing strategy). I'm not as convinced as Fillion seemed to be that the film is a slam-dunk. I think it could be, even though it's not perfect; I think it could just as easily sink without trace ( ... )

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andrewducker August 25 2005, 10:27:25 UTC
Oh, and as a note, the entire cast was in Edinburgh - except for Wash and Book...

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 10:29:29 UTC
Tudyk's appearing in Spamalot on Broadway at the moment, to be fair ...

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surliminal August 25 2005, 11:22:57 UTC
Tjat was my hindsight realisation: oMG, the peo[le who die are the ones who didn't cme on tour!

From the Joss commentary on Chosen (which is ataggeringly germane toSerenity): "of course once you die in the Whedon verse you get more air time."

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immortalradical August 25 2005, 11:43:10 UTC
And so the browncoat campaign for Serenity 2 begins ... :P

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coffeeandink August 31 2005, 20:37:42 UTC
FYI - I had a small post on the film here and there are links to other discussions in the comments.

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