the sacrifice of climate change

[cluebyfour]

Even the homeless in America use twice the amount of energy than the global average, according to a new study (PDF) from MITThink about that: you could sleep on the streets, or become a Buddhist monk, and still not be able to reduce your carbon footprint to a level deemed necessary by climate change activists.  And as the study points out, reducing

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[phanatic]

when it had less than one-third of its current population and per-capita income (adjusted for inflation) was around $6,000.

And when the deliberate release of nuclear energy was still 35 years in the future.

This is why I'm so fucking *bored* about the climate change debate. There's *no reason* why it matters. It's uncontestable that the climate is changing, and whether we're the cause or not, we should be doing the same things. There are effectively infinite reserves of energy available to use to use, and privation and sacrifice simply *aren't necessary*.

[cluebyfour]

I'm not entirely convinced of climate change or how we contribute to it, but I agree with you nonetheless. Some advocates just seemed determined to return us to the Stone Age, and they don't want nuclear energy to be the solution.

[ilcylic]

There are places on this planet that are in the Stone Age, effectively. I'm perfectly willing to ship all of these fucking neo-luddites there for a while. Shit, I'll pay for the ticket.

[selfishgene]

Amen.

[fabianwhig]

Every cost analysis I have read has pointed me to the simple fact that we could more easily off set the effects of climate changes through private charity for about half the amount of money than we could stop it. Furthermore, no politician has ever kept to the climate promises, such as Europe's utter failure to reduce emissions since Kyoto much less meet their agreed to standards.

[cluebyfour]

Not only that, but they've given a free ride to developing countries whose CO2 output far outpaces the U. S. or the EU.

(I added you back, BTW. Welcome aboard!)

[fabianwhig]

Thank you.

[fabianwhig]

Furthermore, people like Derek Jensen and Jared Diamond seem to think that we would be better off pre-agriculture with average life spans of about 40 years, and they have no small influence on a lot of environmental thinking.