SO I SAW BREAKING DAWN

Nov 19, 2011 16:02

...and it was pretty much what I expected, everything a Breaking Dawn movie had to be and could not help but be, etc. ( Read more... )

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beautifiers November 19 2011, 22:43:29 UTC
Can we just focus on the pathetic cameo Smeyer had ONCE AGAIN during the wedding scene?

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beautifiers November 19 2011, 23:08:39 UTC
That's a really good point about Edward's outburst. I gave him too much credit and assumed that he was pretty cheesed off that Bella had gone behind his back to make this decision without even seeking a balance with him -- granted, Edward was all gung ho about getting rid of it out of concern for Bella in the first place but was definitely ignoring what SHE wanted. I guess I was also hoping that they were finally pointing out how Bella being determined and keeping her mind set once a choice is made can make her selfishness blatantly obvious ( ... )

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supersyncspaz7 November 19 2011, 23:43:07 UTC
I totally teared up when Bella said goodbye to Charlie. UGH.

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beautifiers November 19 2011, 23:49:08 UTC
That she couldn't even give an honest answer to his plea(!) that she come home to see him when she could was the nail in the coffin for me. That she had a hard time letting go of him just drove the pain home. Yes, I know parents have to let their children go on their own but think of his situation: he only got Bella for certain days/weeks out of the year, and he even took her to California when she got sick of Forks. When she agreed to live with him, she not only stayed just a little over a year but they experienced (1) her abrupt, cruel departure from him in the first book; (2) her catatonic and manic stages in the second, plus her running off AGAIN; (3) I can't remember what was the situation in Eclipse, it was probably a little better/healthier but just the whole plan she had to leave mortality and her family all behind made Charlie's attempts to keep her close/make sure her relationship with Edward was carefully monitored shows he was paying damn close attention to her dedication to her boyfriend, not to MENTION it made his ( ... )

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la_donna_pietra November 20 2011, 01:11:22 UTC
In Eclipse, she threatens to move out of his house a couple of times if he doesn't back off re: Edward. Not quite as cruel, but still really manipulative and sketchy behavior.

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beautifiers November 20 2011, 03:18:58 UTC
Ffs that IS bad.

ETA: Seriously, the least she could do is change him so he gets to be part of her new family. It could be as creepy!awesome as Lestat changing his mother in The Vampire Lestat. Though that's YMMV.

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ceebeegee November 20 2011, 08:23:43 UTC
A part of me hopes Bella ends up changing him tbh.

Oh my God, what a great idea!!!

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beautifiers November 21 2011, 01:38:18 UTC
I KNOW JDFSKLFD I'm seriously going to make that my head canon for this series. Bella gives her dad a step by step "this is my life now" talk to her dad (FINALLY opening up the way she rarely could when she was mortal), does a baw heartfelt confession about how she never wants to lose him and bam!, Charlie's here to fuckin' stay.

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cmdr_zoom November 20 2011, 09:35:43 UTC
I read a great short fic (a drabble, maybe?) titled something like "A Quiet Man", which tells it all from Charlie's point of view... how he waits, and hopes, and gives everything he can to his daughter, never asking for anything. And at the end, she just walks right back out of his life forever.

Stories that are All About X (and their Perfect Romance with Y) tend to get reaaaaally icky and/or scary if examined from any other perspective. Like, if anyone else in them is an actual person with feelings and stuff.

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profbutters November 21 2011, 01:10:59 UTC
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd really like to see that. I like Movie!Charlie, who doesn't laugh when Bella comes home with a broken hand.

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beautifiers November 21 2011, 01:39:59 UTC
Movie!Charlie is really what made me like the character, so when book!Charlie grates on my nerves or does some SUPER UNCOOL SHIT (like congratulate Jacob for forcing a kiss onto his daughter) I just pretend it's because he's pissed that the Mariners lost and isn't really in a right state of mind.

I, too, would like to read that fic, though it'd probably make me baw :c

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beautifiers November 21 2011, 01:41:38 UTC
Oh man, I'd love to read that. I should go searching for it.

The series would have been a great horror story if told from Charlie's POV, how his daughter is just slipping away and getting weirder and weirder, all these secrets and strange things until finally you see her after almost two months of being separated and she looks like a fucking statue. THAT WOULD BE AMAZINGLY HORRIBLE.

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cmdr_zoom November 22 2011, 04:02:47 UTC
litlover12 November 19 2011, 23:32:43 UTC
As a friend of mine (we're both pro-life, btw) remarked, it basically had something to offend EVERYBODY. :-)

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bizarreoptimism November 20 2011, 16:07:22 UTC
it basically had something to offend EVERYBODY.

That's what makes these stories so very, very special. ;-D

AWESOME icon, BTW.

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*i really, really hope i dont get head bitten off for this but- I have to ask..." starnightmuse November 20 2011, 03:38:34 UTC
*please, please dont kill me"

is the problem that it's a pro-life message or that it's a pro-life message used in the worst possible looking case scenario and also knocked over and over again on your head with a subtextual giant sledge hammer?

(for the record i'm both pro-life and pro-choice *yes it's possible*

but if the case scenario of bella was real life- i would say the mother should come first since she is code RED health risk

*please dont kill me*

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