Eh, alert

Nov 19, 2008 14:36

Again, since y'all seemed desperate to get some: Twilight reviews are starting to come in (updated Fandom Lounge entry). Here's one from The Chicagoist, courtesy of my friend Marcus. And Roger Ebert just barely gives it a thumbs up. What I'm getting out of this is that it's not going to set the non-believers alight with cinematic fire, but fans are ( Read more... )

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ook November 19 2008, 21:09:15 UTC
I enjoy ONTD, but the "LOL fatty!" comments are truly lame especially since most of them aimed at females. Wonder what the same posters would say in 20 years or so when middle-age spread finally hits them.

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sabra_n November 20 2008, 00:13:39 UTC
Oh, I don't doubt some of those posters have weight problems themselves. There's no loathing like self-loathing. Good times.

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artimusdin November 19 2008, 23:37:59 UTC
Of course we will! Because there'd be more to go around~

Also, how can I not love someone from my state who's so awesome? <3~

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all_ephemera November 19 2008, 21:02:20 UTC
*claps* I know that at this point anything I say is going to sound entirely like I'm sucking up, but I'm just really glad you made your comments about Stephanie Meyers weight. It's not okay to just start trouncing her for her weight.

(If you want to trounce her, do it for her abysmal writing, folks, it's not like the digs are hard to get at on that front.)

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heathrow November 19 2008, 21:06:05 UTC
Honestly, I think that Stephanie Meyers looks really okay for a mother of three. She's not an overly exercised/operated-on person - she looks like a size-12 woman who writes, lives, does carpool, etc..

The dress she wore to the LA premiere wasn't the best choice she could have made, but she looks like a lovely woman.

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conejita_diabla November 19 2008, 21:09:53 UTC
Agreed. She looks normal. *sigh*

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spectralbovine November 19 2008, 21:14:54 UTC
She does look good! When I saw her picture in EW, my reaction was something like, "Damn, she's rather pretty. Shame she's a terrible writer."

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h4yleyg November 19 2008, 21:06:36 UTC
Ah, people suck. A person is wonderful, but put a hundred thousand of them together and give them anonymity, and you've got a nightmare. SM is not fat. Not even in a politically correct way, she's just not. People are just bitchy.

And it really doesn't matter what you look like. You're hilarious and talented and any person who thinks less of you for what you look like isn't really worth having as a fan anyway because you've got hundreds who aren't so shallow.

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cleolinda November 19 2008, 21:11:30 UTC
I just actually saw some people talking about her weight in the comments here, not just ONTD (granted, it was a lot more civil here), and while I'm not angry or upset or anything, I just kind of wanted to put that out there. You know, think about what you're saying. Because it's easy to judge someone's looks in a celebrity culture and forget that writers are not people who are paid to look good. They're not professional bodies, if that makes any sense; they're just real-people bodies with professional minds.

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maleficently November 19 2008, 21:53:47 UTC
This is one of the many things about internet anonymity that annoys the ever-living-hell out of me. "LOL Fatty" is like the equivalent of "Your mama wears combat boots" on the playground. It's childish, irrelevant and has no actual bearing on the critical assessment of her LOL!writing. It's an argument to use when you have nothing else intelligent to add. (Can you tell I might be sensitive to the issue?)

It's the number one way to get me to stop reading wank though, because as soon as the conversation goes that way, all intelligence is out the window and the trolls take over.

Also, for the record, she is nowhere near fat. She's not even remotely obese looking. She appears to be a fairly healthy weight, with a lovely face and while I don't have much hope for the brain inside, I envy her hair with much envy. She's not fat. I could show them fat. You know, if I allowed pictures of me, ever. Bah.

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havocs_roman November 20 2008, 00:41:54 UTC
>>writers are not people who are paid to look good. They're not professional bodies, if that makes any sense;

I think I'm opening a can of worms here, but to be fair... neither are performers. Generally speaking, at least, their job is to perform, not necessarily conform to people's unspoken fantasies, and yet most people think they are fair play for all sorts of abuse from the moment they reach the public eye--unless one's only professional purpose is to look good (whichever notion of "looking good" is at play at a given point), one shouldn't be fair play for any sort of "lol, fatty" comments. Rationally thinking, there aren't all that many professionals up there who who "should" expect criticism for not fitting the current notion of "hotness". It's a sad fact, however, that people will grasp at anything in order to criticise someone they dislike, for whichever reason. There will always be some there finding you "too fat", "too skinny", too tan, too colourblind, whatever ( ... )

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sweetsyren November 19 2008, 21:09:28 UTC
I would get on their cases straight away. But they'd probably just call me a fatty and wouldn't see a word I typed.

I don't understand what the deal is with everyone getting on her case about her weight. She's not fat! She's actually got a lovely figure. I would, in fact, kill for her figure, 3 children or not!

But again, i'm a chubby girl so my opinion probably doesn't count...*rolleyes*

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michellerz November 19 2008, 21:53:03 UTC
Your opinion counts just as much, if not more than everyone else's. All the people taking stabs at that poor woman's weight - which is not bad AT ALL - I just wonder how miserable and insecure they must be.

"What? She's hugely successful and bigger than a size 4? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOOOO?!?!" *and the hateful one crunches celery and looks wistfully at her poster of RPattz*

lol ;)

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sweetsyren November 19 2008, 22:03:23 UTC
I do think my opionion counts. I was going for ironic and missed. lol

"What? She's hugely successful and bigger than a size 4? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOOOO?!?!" *and the hateful one crunches celery and looks wistfully at her poster of RPattz*

THIS! It's just sad that this is what society is all about. When I think about what it must be like to go to school today I actually want to hug a teenager. And in the UK that means taking your life in your hands!

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carebear8six November 19 2008, 22:14:04 UTC
hey, i'm thin, too much so in some people's opinions. I would kill for some curves, tits and booty. work it girl.

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vega_ofthe_lyre November 19 2008, 21:09:34 UTC
I know. I'm with you. I can't stand SMeyer, but there are so many other issues that are fair game to criticise her on; people really do not need to go there. Stay classy, folks. I mean, as you said, yes, it's ONTD, they'll attack and eat anything that has mobility and sentience--and I say that with the greatest possible affection--but it isn't her job to conform to ridiculous standards of Hollywood beauty.

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cleolinda November 19 2008, 21:13:25 UTC
Yeah--ONTD was just the most vivid example I had at hand. People here are also talking about her, though.

Her weight and her religion--those are both things I'd like people to leave alone. Because as several Mormon commenters have come here and said, they don't know what the hell she's on about in those books, so it's not like the series reflects their beliefs in general.

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evewithanapple November 19 2008, 21:55:32 UTC
Well her religion I can kind of understand, in an "Isn't it interesting how her beliefs might have seepd into her books?" kind of way (And didn't an ex-Mormom do an LDS reading of the books to see how much there was?) But the weight thing- yeah, no. There's four and a half awful books to criticise, people! You don't need to start taking shots at her weight!

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