Hannibal 1x04: "Oeuf" (again) (some more) (and Red Dragon)

May 01, 2013 21:54

AT SOME POINT I WILL WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN CANNIBALS, DAMN.(How about vampyres? You guys like vampyres ( Read more... )

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 04:05:08 UTC
Cannibalism is a place in our hearts?

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tabbyclaw May 3 2013, 08:50:47 UTC

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 04:04:50 UTC
Heh. See, I would have been totally okay with the dreamlike timeless quality (dude, my mom would grill in a blizzard, even that didn't really bother me), but once you threw in a scene where a family actually seemed to be opening presents, I started tripping over the specific Christmasness of the timing.

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chibi_regalli May 2 2013, 04:17:24 UTC
Maybe it was one of the kids' birthdays and they set up the Christmas tree very very early?

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 04:22:46 UTC
My birthday's in mid-December! I cannot believe I did not think of this.

Or Santa is a time-traveler. Whatever.

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chibi_regalli May 2 2013, 05:00:23 UTC
Time traveling Santa explains EVERYTHING.

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uldihaa May 2 2013, 08:27:33 UTC
Could they have been planning a trip to see family out-of-state and wouldn't physically be home for Christmas? I know my older brother and his family open presents and have a simplified Christmas dinner before leaving to come visit me and our Dad for Christmas.

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 04:41:33 UTC
Somehow, I feel like "Wendy" (yeah, I can't not think of that either) just didn't get quite as much background as the other two. I feel like I just confabulated a shit-ton of stuff from "I think I read somewhere she was supposed to be a counselor."

Holy crap, all of the 'family' scenes are SO MUCH MORE DISTURBING with this context behind them.

Yeahhhh. Especially when you make the explicit connection between the brainwashing and the grooming. "Captor bonding," eeeeeeh.

Also, I was particularly struck in the re-watch how, well, friendly Hannibal and Alana are. It's not unreasonable since he was her mentor, etc. but that first exchange - Do you have an appointment/Do you have a beer - seems positively teasing to me.

Yeahhhhh. That's why I was like, O GIRL the first time around.

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Re: Timeline archerstar May 2 2013, 04:51:09 UTC
I was a little confused about the timing of this episode, because yes, what the fuck is that Christmas shit, but then I started getting the impression that they (being The Lost Boys and Wendy) purposefully decorated the house like that to be more...fucked up (perhaps because she abducted him around Christmas(?) although that's just speculation). There just isn't enough snow around for it to be anywhere near Christmas on the East coast.

And I took the Christmas being early or late comment that Lecter made as a kind of 'well, it's like June, so which is it when you're six months off' type of comment. And while I definitely don't think it's June, it's certainly not around Christmas.

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Re: Timeline cleolinda May 2 2013, 04:54:26 UTC
But the family seemed to have actual Christmas presents of their own under the tree, and the boys took the mother's?

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Re: Timeline archerstar May 2 2013, 04:57:36 UTC
Hm, true. Well, going along with my personal headcanon, maybe they just wrapped random thing to give the impression of presents and then went SHE GETS NONE BECAUSE SHE IS NOT WORTHY.

I still think the weather is All Wrong for anywhere near Christmas. And I say this as someone whose family puts up the decorations the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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Re: Timeline cleolinda May 2 2013, 06:04:09 UTC
Yeah, we do too. Either the weekend after or the first of December. We don't really get snow, if at all, until sporadic bursts in January. The foliage might should have looked a little more brown than green, but I was willing to buy the North Carolina part overall.

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