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nentari August 15 2010, 09:09:26 UTC
Looks like the console's undergone renovations since we last saw it.
It's the first appearance of that new console, which is why Five is making such a fuss of it at the beginning.

OMEGA! TERRIBLE ZODIN! (Do we ever get to find out what she actually is?)
Sadly, no. It's one of those never-seen adventures that live inside the fan's mind.

The Master seems pleasantly bewildered at the prospect of being ASSIGNED to rescue the Doctor. Which still begs the questions, why HIM?
Because the Time Lords are idiots/insane/have mixed-up notions of right and wrong? Honestly, they MURDER poor Two, exile Three and mindwipe Jamie and Zoe, but with the Master and others like him it's one step short from offering them tea and cookies.

I know this might seem like a weird time to ask but...am I the only person wondering why they chose a trench coat for Susan's costume here?
Perhaps to show people that not all trenchcoats are like Sarah Jane's? :P

"Commander!" Looks like Maxil's been replaced, along with Ermintrude the Hat...Colin Baker believes Maxil ( ... )

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classicwhoblog August 15 2010, 15:30:28 UTC
Now I feel like I should ask the editor of The Terrible Zodin why he decided to use that as the name for his fanzine, just out of curiosity.

Yeah...I still haven't seen some of the other important Gallifrey-centric stories (The Deadly Assassin, The Invasion of Time) so I'm still getting a grasp on what Time Lord society is really about. Although this and Arc of Infinity are giving me evidence for some educated guesses...

I actually didn't know Sarah Jane had a trench coat.

Awwww, poor Colin.

I'm getting the impression that Eric Saward isn't a particularly well-liked script editor.

Yes. Yes it was very cool. I don't think I've ever seen the Cybermen get the stuffing blown out of them like that before, not even by the Daleks in Doomsday.

Wow. EVERYONE was eyeing up Susan in this episode.

Ah yes, I remember hearing about the "colonel" thing, now that you mention it. I wasn't really thinking about it at the time because I already knew that they were illusions.

Ooo yay! I love getting references :3

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nentari August 15 2010, 15:45:45 UTC
I haven't watched The Invasion of Time yet, but The Deadly Assassin shows the hypocritical values of the Time Lords very well.

It's that plastic purple monstrosity she's wearing at the beginning, but which she ditches quickly. In fact, if you play close attention, she seems to be shedding pieces of clothing as the story progresses, though thankfully not in the same manner as Nyssa in Terminus.

I think overall Eric Saward tends to rank even lower than RTD at his most egocentric episodes. People tend to blame either John Nathan-Turner (now) or Colin (back then) for all the problems in the Sixth Doctor era, but most of the things people tend to complain about were actually Saward's doing (apart from Six's coat, that is). When Saward left the show after some creative differences with JNT over the end of Trial of a Time Lord, he did it in the most childish way possible and caused a legal mess that made the BBC even more set against the show. In a documentary on the era in the Trial box set, Saward even claims that Colin was the worst ( ... )

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tamlover August 27 2010, 15:56:41 UTC
I'm surprised that Susan knows who the Cybermen are, considering she was long gone when they first showed up.

Maybe they attacked 22nd century Earth while she was married to David. I try to find explanations to the plot holes in this (curiously enough, all plot holes are the result of Eric Saward's rewrites rather than Uncle Terry's original script).Well, I thought Susan knowing who the Cybermen were was fine. The Doctor knew who they were before he met them. He'd heard of them. So it's reasonable to me that Susan had, too. Unless I'm misremembering The Tenth Planet. Definitely he knew about Mondas. I thought he knew about the Cybermen ( ... )

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sharaz_jek August 15 2010, 14:10:05 UTC
TERRIBLE ZODIN! (Do we ever get to find out what she actually is?)
The New Adventure Lungbarrow claims she was a sword-swallower who had an impressive trick with a scimitar. Interpret that as you will.

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classicwhoblog August 15 2010, 15:31:50 UTC
I will indeed interpret that as I will. I still need to read Lungbarrow...

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tbsavafob6 August 15 2010, 14:16:36 UTC
This one just makes me giggle.

Swirly-Cone. I've been trying to find a name for those things forever.

Immortality on Gallifrey. Do Not Want! The Presidency either it seems.

On Doctor Who, arguing with yourself seems very common, when they meet themselves anyway.

This is where I saw my first Yeti. I can't wait to see more of it, even if it's not exactly in a complete format. (That's going to bother me. Damn you BBC at that time.) I may not be good at order, but I do like things complete.

I wish Tom Baker was in this one. Too bad he didn't want to be in it. It would have been great seeing him meet Sarah Jane again. And Tegan expression would have been great.

Beginning sequence equals win. I was happy when I saw that, and I haven't even seen that original episode yet.

There is just so much I could say about this. But that's true for most of the serials. New and old. (I've never been very good at explain things.)

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classicwhoblog August 15 2010, 15:34:41 UTC
I think I got the term "swirly-cone" from TV Tropes somewhere...

I want to hug a Yeti very much right now. Although it would probably kill me first :B

You should really watch The Dalek Invasion of Earth. It's a wonderfully grim story and has one of the most emotionally powerful ending scenes I've seen in a Classic serial.

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tbsavafob6 August 15 2010, 15:47:36 UTC
I think only Jon Pertwee hugged a Yeti and lived.

I intend to watch, just when is the question. It seems like a powerful story. I know that's Susan's last regular story. I will watch in time. (I have so many serials I have to see.)

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anonymous August 15 2010, 16:45:15 UTC
"What makes you think I want your forgiveness?"

YES. THAT LINE. Ainley isn't my favorite Master, but that is THE Master line, of all time, forever.

The Terrible Zodin is one of those gags, like all the various Time War references in the new series, or the Embodiment of Gris in the NAs and BBC books. (Lance Parkin started that one in Dying Days, IIRC.)

I've often wondered what both Ainley and Pertwee made of the scene where they meet. I rather suspect that both of them were somewhat wierded out.

"No, not the mind probe!" is another one of those things that has resonated ever since.

And yes, I think this is the only other time Pertwee said "Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow."

You can also see Two and Three sniping at eachother a bit during the exposition scene.

There's other stuff I wanna say about this ep, but I can't remember it just now.

Also Brig.

-Arcalian

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classicwhoblog August 16 2010, 04:36:56 UTC
Agreed. That is the mark of a man who is quite happy in his profession.

So I only JUST figured out what "IIRC" stands for. V_V

Apparently there's a version of the commentary where Elisabeth Sladen and Nicholas Courtney chorus that line along with the Castellan when that happens.

My heart jumped a little when that neutron flow's polarity was reversed :D

And Brig.

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oh yes, I remember now.... anonymous August 15 2010, 16:47:02 UTC
"Swirly Cone" was originally just a two dimensional black obelisk. However, on the plus side, when all the old Doctors/companions went away, you see their TARDISes splitting off from Five's, one by one. I thnk that effect was cooler, actually

-Arcalian

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