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[macho_haggar]

I believe some of the students need to be reminded of what will and will not be tolerated behavior on-campus, and on the school's network. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this; just because they are our future doesn't mean they can run around like they own the place.

Comments

[merciless_sting]

I couldnt agree more.

I wouldnt mind teaching some manners. We certainly shouldnt be so lenient, or as lenient as we have been. Anyone who misuses the network or fails to show respect to our institution should receive probation, punishments, suspensions, and possible transfers to schools that will... accommodate for their less than exceptional behavior, including special education courses. I am getting sick of students who are abusing the privileges they barely deserve.

Some students cant be reached, and thats because with every fiber of their being they refuse to be reached. We can save the others, but the stubborn ones are better off dropping out, I'm sorry to say. If you are desperate to keep these students in our school, perhaps mandatory meetings with the school counselor or participation in an extracurricular activity, or just straight up janitorial/community service can be a way to go.

[macho_haggar]

I think we should do the most we can to give all students every chance they can get to achieve their potential, but you may be right. A number of particularly tough cases seem to be enrolled here, and might do better to be elsewhere. However, I would prefer that as an absolute last resort. I, personally, have seen some children with serious attitude problems make a complete turnaround when given the right circumstances and motivation.

I believe some students may benefit from mandatory meetings with the counselors, and I like this idea of extracurricular activity to help keep their attention. But I know coddling will only go so far. We do need to have a serious talk about punishments at the next faculty meeting.

[merciless_sting]

I suppose the trick is to find what is the ideal "circumstance" to help turn a child around. These students are certainly challenging us all. They dont pay me enough to deal with this bullshit.

Agreed.

[macho_haggar]

It's why we have to remain on our feet with them. As much as students grow and change, we have to as well, rising up to meet their challenges.

[notridinwitbean]

I fully agree with this statment, and have since i came to this school.
Not only the students but certain teachers too i believe have led a few of our young lambs astray. Onizuka. Speedwagon. Ect.
Something needs to be done to not just punish the misbehaviors, but to deture them from doing it in the first place. You have to understand, this is why i became a teacher. I locked up enough young people in my day, and i always wondered where did their path to prison begin?
It begins right here.
With us, their teachers.
If their parents do not contain them, they it is up to us, to show them why they must contain themselves.
I like to Think UsulPaul will agree with me when i say this

[merciless_sting]

I've tried the personal level before, Rally, and I'm telling you that a student getting too comfortable isnt the answer either. It might depend on the student themself, but making a personal relationship can also cause the trouble students to act out more or just fail to see what is wrong with their behavior whether you have a discussion about it or not. Being their friend is one way to go about it, but in the particularly difficult cases there is no reasoning.

I do applaud you, that most of the students who leave your class seem less irritable than they are when they come in. What you're doing may be a good approach, but it wont solve the problem.

[macho_haggar]

Well put, Ms. Vincent. I understand the need to connect to the students on a more personal level, as I've seen it happen. One of my daughter's friends is a first-hand example of what good can come of a student and teacher relating on a more human level. But, as Ms. Scorpiones mentioned, this is a hard line to walk, and can have some severe drawbacks for all the good it can do. But if you think that it would do some of our more problematic students some good, please let me know, and perhaps we can work out something akin to a counselor session, but with you in place of the counselor.

I'm also in opposition of added security, as a blow to student morale, or treating the school like a police state, might just make things worse. The ROTC was not my decision; that was the call of the board. I've always thought that ROTC was a service for student volunteers, not a method for punishing the less-than-upright students. I think I may need to talk to the board about this.

[det_gumshoe]

While I wasn't a campus cop back in L.A., I had a few buddies who transferred over to the district. They told me metal detectors and random full-on searches kept the kids in line. Kinda extreme for a school like this, but it's something to keep in mind, sir.

If we can't afford drug dogs or metal detectors, how about revoking their posting privileges on the network?

[merciless_sting]

... I dont think they're being particularly difficult because they're on drugs or have knives, Gumshoe.

[det_gumshoe]

I know. Just a sort of automatic thing with me, pal. Being from L.A. and all.

So we just gotta figure out why some of the kids are lashing out, right? Hire a school psychologist or something?

[merciless_sting]

You're very amusing. Thank you.

I believe a school psychologist is a start.

[inukitake]

Erm...discipline isn't really my forte.

[macho_haggar]

No, but you're rather well-liked among the students, Mr. Ukitake. Maybe you could suggest some positive reinforcement methods? Or at least give your two cents on the matter at large.

[inukitake]

Well, Michelle and I were thinking of reviving the Literary Club. Perhaps we can encourage some of the...erm...more outspoken students to join?

[macho_haggar]

I like that idea; a lot of the more... shall we say, challenging students seem to be pretty well-read. It could be just the diversion they need.

[fatherangeldust]

This is only being brought up now?

[macho_haggar]

Things have only recently gotten worse, since I started here.