Comments | chloris: Vid Recs and Panel Description Fail

chloris

Vid Recs and Panel Description Fail

Dec 11, 2008 22:57

I'm having some spiked eggnog while I look over my flist and watch a few vids. (BTW: Eggnog and bourbon are awesome together!!) I have BSG, Eddington, and Doctor Who represented in my recs:

1. What the FrakScifi has updated their 'What The Frak' video for season 4.5 (which starts soon! yay!). If you can't remember who's dead, who's fraking whom, ( Read more... )

fandom: vid rec, tv: bsg, tv: doctor who

Comments 17

ripley312 December 12 2008, 04:35:49 UTC

I just loved that What the Frak video for BSG. Do you know that they will have new webisodes out starting tommorow? I don't know how long they are but I believe they will last till the new season starts.

chloris December 13 2008, 02:16:09 UTC

That is an awesome video. I loved it when they did the one just before s4, so I was very happy to see an update. I knew there were websodes but not when they started (though by now there are a bunch of posts about the first one on my flist).

professorworm December 12 2008, 05:01:01 UTC

Oh my god, I hadn't seen that thing about Doctor Who and the shippers (sounds like a band). I can't even begin to wrap my brain around that one. Just wow...and you pretty much said everything I wanted to say on that one.

But you know men are strange like that. I see it when I go to the comic book store and I get a look from several men as if I'm in a gentlemen's club to watch the show. Apparently we can't enjoy the geekworld.

utopia83 December 12 2008, 14:55:13 UTC

We should consider forming one.

Doctor Who and the Shippers.

Imma ask Steven Tyler, Axel Rose and Jon Bon Jovi for help...

chloris December 13 2008, 02:19:17 UTC

Men have it in their heads that geekworld is theirs and they get very upset if we enjoy it too. They get especially upset if we try to enter in quantity, since they will no longer be in charge of all aspects and they certainly feel as though it is their right to be in charge (male privilege, let me show you it).

bergeronprocess December 12 2008, 05:27:40 UTC

I think it's fucking bullshit how "us guys" are clearly trying to take fandom and keep it away from those of us who have vaginas and might enjoy other aspects of the show SUCH AS EMOTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?!? WE LIKE THAT. Sorry. I'm angry. But anyway, I've had a devil of a time figuring out continuity, especially as it relates to my Whoniverse stories (I've got it pretty much sorted, but not without drawing some diagrams). I love the techno aspects of it all; I love imagining how the future will look based on what futuristic episodes we see. I mean, to quote a Catherine Tate show character, HOW VERY DARE WE swan our tiny asses in and act like we own the place ( ... )

chloris December 13 2008, 02:29:04 UTC

I just saw your rant post and it was lovely! I tend to be too cautious to get a good rant on but I loved yours.

It is ridiculous to think that emotional relationships are not important aspects of a show. Simply because a certain subset of viewers is not interested in such things and they were in charge of the fandom for some length of time, doesn't mean that we're doing it wrong because we're interested in more than the (dubious) science.

Heh. Everyone has difficulty with Who continuity. There are so many different ones that every viewer can basically pick their own at least as far as the details go.

bergeronprocess December 13 2008, 04:28:20 UTC

Rantyposts are good, but also dangerous because then you rant, and then someone doesn't agree with you, and shoots holes in your argument, and you feel stupid.

It is absolutely ridiculous. My friend Desi posted that to a mailing group for Who fans that go to Dragon*Con, a lot of whom are exactly the kind of old guard that would make this panel, and predictably their responses have been "grumble, grumble, new fans, shippers suck, grumble grumble, I don't like relationships in my Who." I want to slap them.

evilgeniuslady December 12 2008, 07:18:14 UTC

I get that it must have been utterly weird, going from being part of a somewhat small fandom for a show that had been off the air for a looooong time, to what the fandom is now, vibrant and sprawling with new fans who may have different priorities. It must be strange. The sad thing is, it is an interesting idea, looking at how fandom has changed with the new show and livejournal, but that description? Is so prejudiced, it hurts.

chloris December 13 2008, 02:36:28 UTC

I get that it would be weird too and that the old guard (as it were) would feel a bit defensive about all the newcomers. It was a small, exclusive club that the members understood very well and now it's a behemoth that they don't know what to make of.

It's as though the description was worded so as to start as much wank as possible. If I wanted to start a fandom fight, I would write just about the same thing. About the only thing worse would be to write up a similarly clueless description that went into Who racial issues.

evilgeniuslady December 13 2008, 08:28:26 UTC

Yeah. The intentions are (probably) good, but the execution lacks any kind of finesse.

utopia83 December 12 2008, 14:52:46 UTC

I am a continuity, technology, science FREAK who tends to FLAIL if something can't be explained away rationally.

I could care less about shipping.

Which makes it so difficult to write fic, it's not even funny.

ARGH.

CAPSLOCK OF FAIL!!!

chloris December 13 2008, 02:41:49 UTC

Well, apparently you don't exist! Women must be shippers (and mostly OTP shippers) and must not be interested in science. How dare you screw up their discrete little pigeonholes for different genders of viewers!

There is a market for gen fic! It's smaller than the one for shipper fic mostly since there's less chance for porn, but it does exist.