Why are those pretend-sick people so darned UPPITY?

Oct 03, 2012 13:03

Damian Thompson has recently used the Daily Telegraph to highlight the difference between blogging and journalism.

"... medical science has no great difficulty explaining what’s wrong with most people diagnosed, or self-diagnosed, with ME. Their brains create a debilitating fatigue and pain that often correlates with certain personality traits. ( Read more... )

all about me, this year

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doetja October 3 2012, 13:06:38 UTC
[1] You know, I have a strong general aversion to medical doctors on account of most of them, from what I can see, being simultaneously reductionist simpletons and unbelievably arrogant. This Wessely really embodies the archetype. What a nasty little prick!

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chiller October 3 2012, 14:42:40 UTC
There is a deep loathing for this man, in the ME community.

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doetja October 3 2012, 16:13:34 UTC
I can really see why.

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actually_not October 3 2012, 13:27:28 UTC
Isn't the core of the problem really the stigma of mental illness as much as anything. There seems to be this false dichotomy between psychiatry and neurology which always seems (to me) to be a hang up about the existence of the soul and the separation of mind from body. Once you accept that the brain is just another fleshy part of the body and that symptoms it displays are part of a medical condition (be it depletion of neurotransmitters or deposition of abnormal proteins in cells or subtle changes in the cell membranes that fuck up nerve transmission) then we're left with "Yes, you have a horrible illness which is causing this constellation of symptoms and we don't know why". We don't know why depression or schizophrenia happen either and we're moving away from 'pull yourself together' on those matters so why not ME/CFS? The brain has a much bigger role to play in general body homeostasis than was ever guessed.

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chiller October 3 2012, 14:41:07 UTC
I appreciate that. Mental heath is horribly stigmatised in this country. The problem is: this is not a mental health condition, and cannot be defined as such unless you presume that all the symptoms are psychosomatic ( ... )

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actually_not October 3 2012, 15:14:01 UTC
Yes, I can see that psychosomatic is not the word and I agree that Wessely's attitude is unhelpful ( ... )

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chiller October 3 2012, 15:36:09 UTC
Like everything else with this, the blood thing isn't continual - it happens only when I am bad enough that my hair starts dropping out. ;)

The point is, if we don't know whether this is mitochondrial, viral, some fault in the brain, environmental, immune, or some ghastly picture encompassing all of the above, it isn't helpful to have a psychiatrist dick around with the WHO definition of the problem such that it becomes defined narrowly as "psychiatric", which to most lay people - and most GPs - means "all in the mind".

The fact he then bandies words like "psychosomatic" around have done NOTHING to help anyone but himself.

That the condition may have its origin in the brain's failure to regulate certain autonomic systems, I neither mind nor have an opinion on - it's as likely as any other cause at this point. But bracketing ME in with depression/schizophrenia/eating disorders is just incorrect. It isn't a disorder that interferes with one's perception of reality. THAT is the point ME-ers take issue with.

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jdawgspi October 3 2012, 16:05:08 UTC
I really hope you can/will submit this, or part of it, editorially. I had never even heard of this condition until I read about your life basically being destroyed because of it. People should know, and they should learn it by your elegant and articulate hand.

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salvagejob October 3 2012, 16:10:09 UTC
"This is a tricky subject for me, because a colleague has been diagnosed with ME. He’s seriously ill: the breakdown of one part of his body after another cannot be explained by psychosomatic fatigue. On the other hand, I suspect that his condition has only been described as ME because doctors haven’t pinned down what’s going on."

In other words, this happened to someone I know, so it can't possibly be what all those fakers have. Who is this moron? Never mind. I'll go look him up. Save your strength for something better.

Good Lord.

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