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[suzyder]

ok. if you had taught me philosophy I might have actually taken a second course.

I also enjoyed "what the fawkes" and what-the-fucky.

:)

<3

[chibi_squirt]

I used to be pretty good at paraphrasing stuff into essay form and having it make sense while still being accurate, but, iunno, I've been really off my game, lately.

In other news, how long has it been since we've talked?

[marian715]

So it's ok to do something morally or ethically Wrong if God told you to do it? That's a very dangerous idea. Jihad, anyone?

[olegriz]

At least from the Kantian perspective, it seems that whatever God wants you to do is by definition morally right. The problem with this of course is that we have a tendency to take the position that "if I want to do it, God wants me to do it as well". Another hazard is that the Devil does a very convincing God impression when he wants to.

[chibi_squirt]

I also don't think Kierkegaard *is* saying it's okay to do something ethically wrong just because God tells you to. It's just what you *should* do.

Hmm, an analogous situation... I think I've mentioned this in here before, but say you walk into a square and you see a huge crowd of people being held by soldiers. (Evil soldiers.) The Head Honcho hands you a gun and says, "You can either shoot one person yourself, or you can give me the gun back and I will have my men shoot them all." Shooting the one person yourself? Is still murder. It's still horrendous and wrong. It's just that it's also what you *should* do, because the alternative is some other quality worse than wrong.

Does this make any sense?

[subversivecynic]

Darlin', why does philosophy have to be so damned complicated and wordy and confusing? Is the will of god being inscrutable really that... inscrutable?

And personally, I'd give Kierkegaard a smack around the ear if he were my kid. One does not do evil and blame it on God (or Satan or whatever). Choices are given by god (or gods or fate, I'm not picky) - even the orders and requests and laws are choices in the end, because you are not a puppet, and can choose not to follow them.

We're not Christian (Buddhist/Wiccan/Islamic) soldiers, following marching orders to a tee. We're "insert religion here" anarcho-syndicalists, guessing and making shit up and reinterpeting as we go along. We are creations of god, but he evil we create is our own. Or at least so far as I understand it.

Are they teaching you any non-western based philosophy up there?

[chibi_squirt]

I think part of Kierkegaard's philosophy is that the will of God *is* Scrutable. The reasons for that will aren't, but that's not really an excuse

[subversivecynic]

That was Lot - it's from the story of Sodom. Right before he offers his virgin daughters to be raped by the townspeople, so they'd stop harrasing the visiting angels. I'm not a big fan of Lot. And what God did to her wife was all kinds of not on.

I've got to say that, if he is correct in his vision of priorities, I'm making a stand and not worshiping his god. Cause that's fucked up, yo.

[subversivecynic]

And they only have one course? Shame on them. Some of the greatest thinkers in the world came from the Eastern School of thought. And that doesn't even touch on Native American and African teachings - religion and philosophy.