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thrace_adams September 4 2008, 13:40:39 UTC
Here Here!!! I second that motion!!!!!

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cherylad September 6 2008, 14:58:51 UTC
Thanks! And I'm so sorry we didn't get to meet at D*C!! Pi told me she talked with you and I didn't see you to catch up and introduce myself in person!

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thrace_adams September 6 2008, 18:50:24 UTC
GRRR ARRRGGGHHH! Did I know you were going to be at D*C? (thinks hard) I'm sorry we didn't get to meet too! That would have been very cool! Well, I'm sure there will be another time :)

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cherylad September 6 2008, 20:26:12 UTC
I know!!! And there will be!

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lurkrealclose September 4 2008, 13:54:09 UTC
Wow, great insight, Cheryl!

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cherylad September 6 2008, 14:59:14 UTC
Thanks LRC.

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lurkrealclose September 6 2008, 16:56:57 UTC
Hmmmm. I think Ani makes a good point, though. Do the ends justify the means. I'm not sure, but it's got me thinking.

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cherylad September 6 2008, 18:13:23 UTC
If it *was* illegal, I'd agree, but the E.C. has been the law of the land sinced 1776. Having said that, it wasn't my point ... or where I started with this.

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cherylad September 6 2008, 15:00:15 UTC
Hi! Thanks.... was have a 'Mommy' moment!

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tracyj23 September 4 2008, 14:42:24 UTC
Very true. And being the parent of one of those 'quieter, less popular' types, I second it heartily.

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cherylad September 6 2008, 14:57:17 UTC
Thanks ... My son and I had a conversation on the way to school that morning and it got me to wondering what things would be different if things were done differently in those early grades. He is a great kid, very smart and had *wonderful* 2nd -4th grade teachers whom I adore. But, he learned to not step out there in that way. I just wonder...

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anastashial September 6 2008, 13:14:21 UTC
I'm torn by what you said cheryl. I heartily agree about the need to encourage the quiet ones. I'm reticent though, because of my inherent reluctance to "break the law" except possibly in very dire circumstances.

I don't know how a teacher would go about taking this electoral college role behind the scenes without risking the students finding out about it and in doing so feeling betrayed by the process. I'm concerned about how that would affect their development of trust in our one person, one vote heritage.

Don't know, maybe I'm just too idealistic. I am here wracking my brain. I'm trying to figure out another way that the election outcomes could be influenced or altered. A way that would give the kids an opportunity to learn how to be more inclusive of everybody, even the quiet ones, at an early enough age for it to make a difference on our society.

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cherylad September 6 2008, 13:52:32 UTC
Reality is, we NEVER had a one person, one vote heritage.

We always were exclusionary despite the flowery rhetoric. Initially, only white land-owning men could vote. Then it was tied to councils who decided who were actually "American Citizens." Then, poll taxes. And all of that blocked more than 50% of the population.

The Electoral College is set up that it can COMPLETELY OVERTURN a popular election ... even one that is a landslide. It is the final arbiter.

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anastashial September 6 2008, 23:22:51 UTC
Too true, like I said I'm an idealist

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since I like to go really off the wall with my ideas, it might be interesting to see the state primaries and caucuses as a campaign for the electors and not the candidates. Or maybe the electors need to fill out those position questionnaires that everyone gets to see.

Then I've also the question what % of US voters even partially understand the process?

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cherylad September 6 2008, 23:58:24 UTC
The point of this post was about kids, particularly shy ones and what we are all lose out on when they are encouraged ... not a discussion of the American Political system.

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