I just watched this episode, and generally would like to say: well done. Well said. And I think the parallel is supposed to fall apart and God is supposed to be misunderstood by the angels, at least at the moment. So, nicely done articulating those points.
Though, I've got to admit, I'm getting a little tired of "love" being the answer to all these problems.
I don't think that love is a solution as much as it's a way not to repeat Cain and Abel. (Mind, Adam and Eve also fucked up royally without killing each other - or anyone else.)
Love, for all that it can prevent a Biblical repeat, is all what is the source of all of the problems. Love is what cast Castiel and Lucifer out of heaven. Love is what screws up Sam and Dean. Sure, they'd be lost without love, but they have, shall we say, an overabundance? And even too much water will make you drown.
John telling Dean to kill Sam never sat well with me. Go back and check out how many times John tells Dean that he needs to keep Sam safe, that it's his job to save Sam. It just doesn't jive for John to then be like, "BTW, kill him now."
But if Michael can mind-wipe John and Mary, then he could very easily plant ideas in their psyches without their knowledge - totally another reason that angels are not trustworthy at all.
John fucks Dean's head up so badly. And Sam's. Oh, John.
Tbh, I'm hoping Castiel ends up a very dark gray (ahem, evil) on the moral color scheme. I'll never get used to the Winchesters having allies that don't wear trucker hats,
I think that if Michael ever spent time with Dean, he would begin to understand love and grey areas and doing what one thinks is right even if it might be wrong, the way Cas has come to learn of it. Michael is what Dean was several years ago: the good son, obedient, unquestioning the plan. Dean has learned, if only Michael could learn from Dean, there might be hope.
Logic problem
anonymous
February 6 2010, 06:49:27 UTC
If Sam and Dean are decended from Cain and Abel?[ (The implication being Dean=Cain & Sam =Anel, or maybe the reverse) Well: 1) At least one of the pair has no 'listed' decendents - being dead and all. 2)Sam and Dean are brothers, so whoever one is decended from so is the other. 3)And so all of THEIR ancestors - presumedly on the WInchester side at least. and?
Oh yeh - pretty much so is everyone else on the PLANET ( even if Adam & Eve had many MANY more rug rats? It's been a LONG period for genes to mix,) So nice metaphor - bio class FAIL!
I really enjoyed this, and I agree with you about Michael leaving residual ideas in John and Mary's head. Although it opened a question for me which I've now posted.
This is why I loved this episode, for me it is the first one in a long time that I've loved enough to ask questions, and read meta.
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And I think the parallel is supposed to fall apart and God is supposed to be misunderstood by the angels, at least at the moment. So, nicely done articulating those points.
Though, I've got to admit, I'm getting a little tired of "love" being the answer to all these problems.
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Love, for all that it can prevent a Biblical repeat, is all what is the source of all of the problems. Love is what cast Castiel and Lucifer out of heaven. Love is what screws up Sam and Dean. Sure, they'd be lost without love, but they have, shall we say, an overabundance? And even too much water will make you drown.
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I also loved the bit about Michael planting that little 'KILL SAMMM' seed in the back of John's head.
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But if Michael can mind-wipe John and Mary, then he could very easily plant ideas in their psyches without their knowledge - totally another reason that angels are not trustworthy at all.
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Tbh, I'm hoping Castiel ends up a very dark gray (ahem, evil) on the moral color scheme. I'll never get used to the Winchesters having allies that don't wear trucker hats,
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1) At least one of the pair has no 'listed' decendents - being dead and all.
2)Sam and Dean are brothers, so whoever one is decended from so is the other.
3)And so all of THEIR ancestors - presumedly on the WInchester side at least.
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Oh yeh - pretty much so is everyone else on the PLANET ( even if Adam & Eve had many MANY more rug rats? It's been a LONG period for genes to mix,)
So nice metaphor - bio class FAIL!
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I view it as a metaphor in any case, that Dean is supposed to be Cain and Sam is supposed to be Abel - that Michael is Cain and Lucifer is Abel.
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This is why I loved this episode, for me it is the first one in a long time that I've loved enough to ask questions, and read meta.
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