Glee

[chasingtides]

So, I made two mistakes. One, I watch another episode of Glee. (Warning: Mattress comes with unexamined domestic violence, discussion further in

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[yakbites]

I'm with you. Either the satire is so delicate and nuanced that I just don't get it (which I doubt) or this show has some real problems.

[chasingtides]

I have to admit, the domestic violence seen bothers me more than anything else.

Especially since I was totally shut down by a Gleek who told me it wasn't domestic violence and I was blowing things out of proportion. (She's clearly terrified - and she's been scared to tell her husband the truth for fear of what will happen - and he threw something at her head and pinning her wrist above her head. If that isn't domestic violence, I don't know what is.)

[smallcaps]

Dude, that was the scene that I melted down over last week. I didn't stop shaking for two days. Not domestic violence MY FUCKING ASS.

The show is filled with problematic and you're right, there is a lot of silencing and shutting down going on in the fandom. Makes my skin crawl. I gave up after Mattress (and hoo, it felt good this week not to have to brace myself to watch it this week, which I guess goes to show that I was more bothered by it than I realised).

[chasingtides]

I saw it after work today.

I currently have my music jacked to ten and am surrounded by baked goods. I'm not okay by any definition. I was *not* prepared for that and I actually have people telling me that it was "just a normal fight, nothing to be upset over."

He threw shit at her head. He scared her out of her wits. He pinned her against the wall. He ripped clothing off of her.

That is not okay.

[smallcaps]

So... domestic abuse only happens when the perpetrator is calm and dispassionate?

Dumbasses.

[chasingtides]

Apparently domestic abuse is the woman's fault if she ever lied to her husband because she was scared or mentally ill.

[oregano42]

Stopped watching Glee pretty much for similar reasons- before it even got to anything as graphic as the scene you've described.
As far as I can tell, it's supposed to be satire _because_ he's being portrayed as the victim. Or, at least, that's the general way the first few episodes were going. The writers seem to take plotlines that would be considered, by most, to be really offensive and slightly twist them- and then call it satire. It just was not well done. Also, it's incredibly depressing.

They've pretty much either got to go full Ianucci (which would never be allowed on US network TV primetime) or admit that adding cover songs to a technically nice roll of film makes people A-okay with just about anything (like The Producers?).

[foldingstar]

I am afraid I cannot give my opinion yet coz it has not been on over here. However, the first episode is next week. I will get back to you....mind you, the topic might be exhausted by then.

[chasingtides]

Apparently domestic abuse is the woman's fault if she ever lied to her husband because she was scared or mentally ill.

(Spoilers, obviously.)

[virginia_fell]

Satire pokes fun at people in power. Poking at marginalized people is the exact opposite.

Television fail.