Xenogenesis trilogy (Butler)

Nov 09, 2009 17:40

Via ase. Okay, Dawn (and the two sequels) blew me away. Just. This is some extraordinary SF -- humans (or what's left of them) are conquered by an alien race. Only it's not that simple. The humans might think it is. The aliens are really alien and don't look at it that way (and indeed are both much more ruthless than most humans, and much more ( Read more... )

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nolly November 10 2009, 18:17:58 UTC
I liked the first two Pattern novels, but not so much Clay's Ark and Patternmaster. I do like the Xenogenesis books,

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charlie_ego November 12 2009, 17:37:13 UTC
I hated Clay's Ark (I guess I like my books to end happily!) and I actually liked Patternmaster, though that may have to do a lot with reading it first very young (I had no idea who Butler was, and did not even associate it with the other stuff I read by her until much much later). I do think it's cool as a look at "whoa, they had all these grand plans for the Pattern... and this is what it became."

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nolly November 12 2009, 18:02:25 UTC
Whereas I read all four in an omnibus, and so I was really feeling the missing middle part of the story -- how did the Pattern turn into this? And both Clay's Ark and Patternmaster pretty much failed on the "I want at least one character i want to sit down and have a chat with over coffee/tea/cocoa/etc."

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charlie_ego November 17 2009, 22:01:10 UTC
Yes, I can see how that might happen, reading them all at once.

And both Clay's Ark and Patternmaster pretty much failed on the "I want at least one character i want to sit down and have a chat with over coffee/tea/cocoa/etc."

...That's part of what I mean about Butler being strange, actually. I find very few of her characters to be people I would be comfortable spending time with, though many of them are rather fascinating.

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ase November 12 2009, 04:02:50 UTC
Joan Slonczewski wrote an essay about the biology and race messages in the Dawn trilogy about a decade ago. I just recently ran across it, but I think the comparison of the Oankali to modern Western society is interesting.

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charlie_ego November 12 2009, 17:40:56 UTC
...Yeah. I haven't had a chance to read through this closely, but yeah, I was definitely getting the race message vibe from those books in a big way. In the best way, actually; it made me think about race/colonization without rolling my eyes at the parallels, because the message is never superior to the dictates of the story. (Ahem, LeGuin!)

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