Agreed that this is no longer laboratory conditions; were it, and were it with people I knew and trusted, I don't know what I would say, but it would have been fascinating to see it in action the first time. Now, of course, someone's pissed in the pool and it's fucked, but at first it could have been intriguing.
If I'd seen it at Norwescon, frankly, I would've dismissed it right along with the furries and the cosplayers and the weirdos in painful corsets, as long as everyone involved seemed comfortable. If not...that would have been a different story. I will tolerate freedom of choice, but not imposed touching.
"...no one is touched without their consent. No one. I firmly, and wholeheartedly, and even violently, believe and affirm this."
I stated my beliefs on groping a few entries back. It was a response to a news report about women being groped on trains in Boston.
I'm one of those people that doesn't like being touched. Particularly by strangers, and even friends if I"m in a pissy mood. I'm getting better about that, but imagine I'd be in jail for homicide if I were a female that'd been groped.
I don't generally like being touched either, but that's something I'm consciously - and socially-politely - working to overcome. I don't know what I would have done with the OSBP if it were presented to me (and now I'm pretty aware that it WILL be, whatever theferrett has said, but the exciting part is that the choice is unknown, and I get to make it.
The first time I was groped, I nearly fell over in shock. The second time I was groped...I hit him. Hard. It was in a club where the bouncers were from the same company I worked for, and they cheerfully admitted that they weren't going to do anything about it. Possibly I could have reacted better, but damn did it feel good. Uninvited contact - and this was not mistakeable as anything other than groping, even though it happened at a club - should never, ever be condoned or tolerated.
Maybe it's different for guys. The only time I've been obviously groped was by a police officer in East San Jose after being pulled over and searched. Her partner just smirked while she "frisked" me. I really don't think she needed to reach into my front pocket three times to see if I was carrying anything in there.
Not someone to run around punching, unfortunately, and the authority trip our police operate on is a whole 'nother rant, but it's a pretty interesting phenomena.
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If I'd seen it at Norwescon, frankly, I would've dismissed it right along with the furries and the cosplayers and the weirdos in painful corsets, as long as everyone involved seemed comfortable. If not...that would have been a different story. I will tolerate freedom of choice, but not imposed touching.
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I stated my beliefs on groping a few entries back. It was a response to a news report about women being groped on trains in Boston.
I'm one of those people that doesn't like being touched. Particularly by strangers, and even friends if I"m in a pissy mood. I'm getting better about that, but imagine I'd be in jail for homicide if I were a female that'd been groped.
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The first time I was groped, I nearly fell over in shock. The second time I was groped...I hit him. Hard. It was in a club where the bouncers were from the same company I worked for, and they cheerfully admitted that they weren't going to do anything about it. Possibly I could have reacted better, but damn did it feel good. Uninvited contact - and this was not mistakeable as anything other than groping, even though it happened at a club - should never, ever be condoned or tolerated.
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By which I mean "scary".
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