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Oct 12, 2009 17:40

Heeb Magazine announces the 2009 Heeb 100 -- their top picks of Jewish Americans who are "young, smart and innovative." (Edited To Add: Sure, not as insightful as The Jewish Week's 36 under 36, or the Forward 50, each of which had the good sense to cite hatam_soferet! but I still find this kind of index interesting ( Read more... )

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magid October 12 2009, 22:38:07 UTC
I am obviously not hip at all; I recognized none of the Heeb 100 names, other than that general Jewish names that sound familiar thing.

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debka_notion October 13 2009, 15:44:39 UTC
I just looked through the list- I knew one name (admittedly, I don't generally do hip at all), and that was a professor of mine who wrote an interesting book. I'm not sure he counts as so young- I'd put him somewhere in his 40s, which while not old, probably doesn't count as quite young either.

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tober October 13 2009, 04:08:07 UTC
I shall join you on the non-hip bench. Moreover, I am evidently insufficiently hip to believe that it's cool (or even okay) to select an epithet as the name of your publication. Yeah, I'm aware of the argument about taking back words and all that, but I don't accept it.

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cos October 12 2009, 22:44:24 UTC
Do you read Ethan Zuckerman's blog (semi)regularly? How'd you come across it?

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chanaleh October 13 2009, 14:44:19 UTC
Y'know, I should have known someone would ask. >:-) No, but I've started reading vlvn_rabbi, who I believe is Mrs. Ethan? I will edit to acknowledge.

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chanaleh October 13 2009, 15:43:04 UTC
Well... in short, yeah. Sure. :-)

I mean, I think it's more of a spectrum than LBGetc. identity tends to be. But there are certainly people who "identify as poly" more or less strongly, and I am in that camp. I don't want to say a whole lot more about it right here, right now, but it's one of those "no really, this explains a great deal about patterns I have experienced over my entire life" insights.

(At the same time, I do also hold that monogamy is in part a cultural inculcation, and suspect that a great many more people "could" function just as successfully in a polyamorous context if they weren't so thoroughly trained into abhorring the idea. >:-)

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chuckro October 13 2009, 20:01:29 UTC
I think there are a lot more "spectrums" of human quality than are typically aknowledged by society, including things like sexual orientation, gender identity, introvert/extrovert behavior... (I actually had this thought while discussing the autism spectrum with my sister, which several of my relatives are noticeably and demonsterably on.) I wouldn't doubt that an inclination towards monogamy or polyamory is also one of those.

And while I'd agree that cultural pressure plays a role pushing people towards monogamy, the impression that I've gotten is that, even in happily-accepting, supportive social groups, polyamory is hard. Monogamous relationships are hard, just because they involve two people with seperate brains who think in different ways. More people, more complications.

(This is also biased, of course, by the "case studies" of my friends. Of four people I know who've been involved in poly relationships, only one has gone smoothly and without horrible drama.)

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An answer from the bleachers drwex October 13 2009, 16:39:11 UTC
Has anyone, as far as you know, ever advanced the idea of polyamory as a sexual orientation?

Yes. It's possible to (very roughly) divide poly people into "poly is what I do" and "poly is what I am" groupings. Some people feel very strongly one way or the other; some are sort of nebulous on it. I can't point to formal research on it, though. There's not much formal research on poly at all.

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