When confronted with serious bad behavior, should the members of an order stand up and say "we don't condone that"? As an order?
This seems like standard operating procedure used by some organizations, that upon an individual's misbehavior a brief statement is made from the leadership that the purpose of the organization is {arts, fun, honor, service, whatever} and that an individual's actions off this theme are their own invention, not encouraged officially by the organization. These types of statements can even be made in the absence of any particular incident.
It gets less believable the more incidents you have, though.
When you make someone a peer, what exactly does that mean? Is it simply a reward for past deeds or is it an attempt to impose new rights and responsibilities?
Both.
You also make it sound involuntary, which is appropriate for a reward, but not so much for a new "rank".
A person can turn down the peerage, but we don't make it easy enough to do so. In most cases, the candidate is called into court, told the royalty would like to do this, and that he should return at such-and-such future event with an answer. That sounds like he can say no, and people have, but the invitation is given publicly so if he does decide to say no he has to deal with people asking him why he turned it down. On the other hand, if it were done privately then (1) word would probably get out anyway and (2) once it was widely perceived to be overdue he'd instead have people coming up to him and asking "why aren't you a peer yet?", which is arguably worse. So now that I've written that I'm not sure what changes I'd make.
On the other hand, if [the invitation to peerage] were done privately then ... once it was widely perceived to be overdue he'd instead have people coming up to him and asking "why aren't you a peer yet?"
That happens anyways. And if he had indeed turned down the elevation, he'd have a reason to give his nosy friends.
"Why aren't you a knight yet?" "Because I'm getting out of fighting." "Because I feel I need to work on my courtesy."
"Why aren't you a laurel yet?" "Because most of my really spectacular work was done with someone else's research and modern methods." "Because I spend my work week attendinging meetings; I have no intention of doing the same at SCA events."
His being a knight doesn't make it easier to cheat in combat,...Tangential comment: That's very idealistic of you. I've noticed that marshals (footnote for brokengoose: safety officers for combat) in some areas cut knights a lot more slack in tournaments than they do other fighters. I've heard that it used to be worse, that some knights used to have trouble
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This seems like standard operating procedure used by some organizations, that upon an individual's misbehavior a brief statement is made from the leadership that the purpose of the organization is {arts, fun, honor, service, whatever} and that an individual's actions off this theme are their own invention, not encouraged officially by the organization. These types of statements can even be made in the absence of any particular incident.
It gets less believable the more incidents you have, though.
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Both.
You also make it sound involuntary, which is appropriate for a reward, but not so much for a new "rank".
A person can turn down the peerage, but we don't make it easy enough to do so. In most cases, the candidate is called into court, told the royalty would like to do this, and that he should return at such-and-such future event with an answer. That sounds like he can say no, and people have, but the invitation is given publicly so if he does decide to say no he has to deal with people asking him why he turned it down. On the other hand, if it were done privately then (1) word would probably get out anyway and (2) once it was widely perceived to be overdue he'd instead have people coming up to him and asking "why aren't you a peer yet?", which is arguably worse. So now that I've written that I'm not sure what changes I'd make.
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That happens anyways. And if he had indeed turned down the elevation, he'd have a reason to give his nosy friends.
"Why aren't you a knight yet?"
"Because I'm getting out of fighting."
"Because I feel I need to work on my courtesy."
"Why aren't you a laurel yet?"
"Because most of my really spectacular work was done with someone else's research and modern methods."
"Because I spend my work week attendinging meetings; I have no intention of doing the same at SCA events."
His being a knight doesn't make it easier to cheat in combat,...Tangential comment: That's very idealistic of you. I've noticed that marshals (footnote for brokengoose: safety officers for combat) in some areas cut knights a lot more slack in tournaments than they do other fighters. I've heard that it used to be worse, that some knights used to have trouble ( ... )
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