Just watching the Hound now, so can't really comment yet. I found last week's to be verging on the too far up itself instead of entertaining.
I agree about the sad lack of Rupert Graves. We were discussing the various merits of Benny, Marty & Rupe in the office today. I was the only one rooting for Mr G.
Hee, my opinions are pretty much the complete opposite of yours - I found last week's episode to be stunningly wonderful (and absolutely hilarious in places) and wasn't very keen on the Baskerville one. But I have almost no experience with any other Sherlock Holmes anything, either books or telly (I've seen the movies with RDJ, however ;-). I've just never gotten into it. So I'm not going in for any comparisons, just tuning in because I find the concept intriguing and Benedict lovely. I guess I'm watching for the accents and the pretty.
/shallow
I am, however, completely with you on the love for Rupert Graves and Mark Gatiss. They are both fabulous in their roles and I wish we saw more of them.
I've never read the books either - I'm not a great fan of detective novels in general - but I've seen various telly and film adaptations.
There was some terrific dialogue in the last episode - Moffat really can write brilliantly funny lines, but I have real problems with his characterisation. I think he and his team have done a great job with Watson, who has so often been presented as a bit of a bumbling idiot (especially in the Rathbone films of the 40s), and in some ways, it's hard to get Sherlock wrong because he's so unbending. But whenever he introduces a "strong" female character, she turns out to be one who knows the hero better than anyone else ever has or will, and who 'gets' him instinctively - while also running rings around him. It's become a recurring pattern in Moff's telly stuff.
BC portrays Sherlock as a person with text-book Asperger's Syndrome.
To me, the ending last week felt like the short story "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" or the ending of the movie "Brazil". I didn't think she was saved at all. She only fantasized it. Although I didn't like her character, I was disappointed by her fate, whichever it turned out to be - executed for being a woman or saved by a man. Thanks for that, Moff. Or would that be Mark Gatiss who earns my scorn this time?
I didn't watch this week's episode, given the bad taste the last one left in my mouth.
I have no idea what lasdt week's ending was supposed to be - it was just tacked on daftness.
I liked this week's e[pisode much more. It was atmospheric and Watson got more screen time. There was also Sherlock having doubts about his abilities, although still being a dickhead. I'm getting worried about just how big a dickhead Sherlock is though - I'm starting not to like him all that much; I'm watching for Watson and leStrade!
People with Asperger's can often come across as insensitive dicks. They have no theory of mind, no idea of how to anticipate another person's feelings. It's like what he did with the Molly character in the first episode and her Xmas gift for him.
Your take on it is very similar to my own!! I really liked Hound and the whole drug aspect, particularly how Sherlock started having self-doubt.
I had to LOL at your description here that Irene was written as a mixture of Madame de Pompadour and River Song rolled into one - that's basically exactly what I said too haha!! And someone on my Flist was so ragey about it that they defriended me for thinking Moffat writes women badly, and pretty much all the same way in terms of their over-sexualization to show ~strength~ or w/e.
Someone defriended you over a disagreement about a TV show?!!
*shakes head*
I thought Moffat's first episode last year was absolutely superb and I'd heard such good reports of this one, that I was expecting to be wowed. But - I wasn't. That could be because nothing ever lives up to the hype. But I suspect it was a case of more Moffat recycling and an incredibly unsympathetic and unlikeable female character in Irene. Like I said, I have no idea whether she was originally written that way, so perhaps I shouldn't be passing judgememt. But it was another of SM's tell not show things as we were asked to accept this woman's fantabulousness without any foundation. I don't think that happens so much with his male characters (?) IDK.
I totally agree with you! I don't like him very much because of Stupid Things he's said in the past, but yeah ... I thought he recycled quite a bit too, and again did more telling vs showing. Good point about the male characters! Perhaps he just feels more comfy with them since he is a male, so he doesn't feel the need to skip over stuff as much? IDK.
And yup - defriended over what I thought was a friendly difference of opinion over a TV show. Oh well XD
You're not alone in being disappointed with ep 1, but I suppose we shouldn't have expected anything more, considering SM clearly thinks "strong female character" really does equate to the likes of Madame de Pompadour and River Song.
I did like ep 2 much more though, and thought the fact it was written be Gatiss was very obvious almost immediately.
Personally I think Sherlock is yet another example of something where SM needs removing and it needs leaving in the hands of a competent writer, which I'm becoming ever more convinced he most definitely isn't
I think Sherlock is yet another example of something where SM needs removing
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Moff is getting to be too "important" to be left in charge of these things. While he may have written some of my favourite DW eps, he's clearly let that go to his head and seems to think he's better than he is.
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I agree about the sad lack of Rupert Graves. We were discussing the various merits of Benny, Marty & Rupe in the office today. I was the only one rooting for Mr G.
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RG is definitely yummy. I need to hunt down some LeStrade icons.
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I am, however, completely with you on the love for Rupert Graves and Mark Gatiss. They are both fabulous in their roles and I wish we saw more of them.
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There was some terrific dialogue in the last episode - Moffat really can write brilliantly funny lines, but I have real problems with his characterisation. I think he and his team have done a great job with Watson, who has so often been presented as a bit of a bumbling idiot (especially in the Rathbone films of the 40s), and in some ways, it's hard to get Sherlock wrong because he's so unbending. But whenever he introduces a "strong" female character, she turns out to be one who knows the hero better than anyone else ever has or will, and who 'gets' him instinctively - while also running rings around him. It's become a recurring pattern in Moff's telly stuff.
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To me, the ending last week felt like the short story "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" or the ending of the movie "Brazil". I didn't think she was saved at all. She only fantasized it. Although I didn't like her character, I was disappointed by her fate, whichever it turned out to be - executed for being a woman or saved by a man. Thanks for that, Moff. Or would that be Mark Gatiss who earns my scorn this time?
I didn't watch this week's episode, given the bad taste the last one left in my mouth.
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I have no idea what lasdt week's ending was supposed to be - it was just tacked on daftness.
I liked this week's e[pisode much more. It was atmospheric and Watson got more screen time. There was also Sherlock having doubts about his abilities, although still being a dickhead. I'm getting worried about just how big a dickhead Sherlock is though - I'm starting not to like him all that much; I'm watching for Watson and leStrade!
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I had to LOL at your description here that Irene was written as a mixture of Madame de Pompadour and River Song rolled into one - that's basically exactly what I said too haha!! And someone on my Flist was so ragey about it that they defriended me for thinking Moffat writes women badly, and pretty much all the same way in terms of their over-sexualization to show ~strength~ or w/e.
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*shakes head*
I thought Moffat's first episode last year was absolutely superb and I'd heard such good reports of this one, that I was expecting to be wowed. But - I wasn't. That could be because nothing ever lives up to the hype. But I suspect it was a case of more Moffat recycling and an incredibly unsympathetic and unlikeable female character in Irene. Like I said, I have no idea whether she was originally written that way, so perhaps I shouldn't be passing judgememt. But it was another of SM's tell not show things as we were asked to accept this woman's fantabulousness without any foundation. I don't think that happens so much with his male characters (?) IDK.
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And yup - defriended over what I thought was a friendly difference of opinion over a TV show. Oh well XD
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I did like ep 2 much more though, and thought the fact it was written be Gatiss was very obvious almost immediately.
Personally I think Sherlock is yet another example of something where SM needs removing and it needs leaving in the hands of a competent writer, which I'm becoming ever more convinced he most definitely isn't
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Moff is getting to be too "important" to be left in charge of these things. While he may have written some of my favourite DW eps, he's clearly let that go to his head and seems to think he's better than he is.
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