Films Romana: Demetrius & the Gladiators (1954)

Apr 22, 2010 20:20


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julietvalcouer April 22 2010, 13:30:37 UTC
Well, in fairness to God, he did say "save her from a fate worse than death" and as I've always figured God is more of a logic type than anything, He said "Okay!" Seems a bit unfair to Demetrius to gripe about that considering the terms expressed did not perclude death as an out and in fact explicitly stated it to be a preferable option. If Lucia was in fact a first-century Christian herself one can in fact assume she might be down with the martyrdom thing as well--dying rather than submitting to sexual assault is very big for first-century Christian martyrs. If anything she might feel ripped off that she's only mostly dead and gets gypped out of sainthood ( ... )

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cassiphone April 22 2010, 21:43:41 UTC
Heh to be fair "fate worse than death" was me being sarcastic, not an actual quote from the film - it is implied that this is what is meant.

My argument was that both Demetrius and God were making assumptions about Lucia's preferences - she didn't get to make the choice herself. As is very common with women generally. Likewise, her death and 'resurrection' were there to further the hero's journey, and you could argue that her character gets slightly less attention than the robe itself.

Messalina wasn't Claudius' first wife but she was certainly married to him before he became emperor, and was his first imperial wife. Quite a promotion for her, since no one expected him to inherit.

After she was executed, Claudius married his niece Agrippina, the sister of Caligula.

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julietvalcouer April 22 2010, 23:40:15 UTC
Isn't that kind of the fate of characters who aren't protagonists or villains, though? That's really all they're there for. I have a bigger logic fail for "so, the robe magically made her only kind of tv-sweeps-week dead and she somehow got moved someplace safe and just pops up later when needed?" (Let alone the idea of Peter just wandering casually around Rome and into Caligula's palace. This is the guy so obnoxious he not only got crucified, he got crucified upside down.)

Yeah, Claudius did not have a knack for picking wives...really should have passed on Agrippina's mushrooms. Then again her son paid her back. That's one of my favorite Roman murders. Woman just would not die.

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