Again, it's been so long since I've watched these episodes I don't have anything to add, but I am enjoying your insights--they bring back how much I loved these boys from the very beginning and how well their characters were written!
I'm glad you're enjoying the Sam in every ep posts. With the show having come to an end, it feels good to reconnect with the earlier seasons, and feel how much we love the boys! And yes, their character were very well written!
I agree with all your answers. I think comparing Dean and Sam's grief is difficult because they're different. As you say, Sam's was fresh but, on the other hand, Dean's loss at such a young age had profound life-long ramifications. It's apples and oranges really.
I'm glad you agree. Yes, their grief is different. And Dean's carried the emotional pain from it for most of his life. I think Sam is focusing mostly on how recent his loss is, and how it fuels his urgency to find dad and get answers. Dean has had a longer time to process his grief. It reminds me of this scene from Wendigo, where Sam wants to drop everything and search for dad, while Dean talks about patience.
SAM Dean...no. I gotta find Dad. I gotta find Jessica's killer. It's the only thing I can think about. DEAN Okay, all right, Sam, we'll find them, I promise. Listen to me. You've gotta prepare yourself. I mean, this search could take a while, and all that anger, you can't keep it burning over the long haul. It's gonna kill you. You gotta have patience, man.
1. Maybe Dean was already ready to die, that no one would save him, and when Sam appears, he is very glad to him. Here it is directly felt that Sam will always cover Dean's back, will always be there. 2. It seems to me that Sam is right that when Mary died Dean was very young, he still could not experience the emotions that you experience from the loss of a loved one in adulthood. I think Dean got it, so he asks at the end "Where to take you", he is sure that Sam will leave. 3-4. I really like the last conversation between them. Sam kind of agrees with Dean, and Dean is ready to accept Sam's decision.
1. Yes, exactly. 2. That's a good point, that there's a difference experiencing loss as a child as compared to an adult. Whatever the differences, Dean's carried this trauma with him most of his life, and it's still something he deeply feels, but not the raw pain of a recent loss. 3-4. The end scene conversation is so wonderful. Sam is staying, and their bond is strengthened.
I love this episode! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and lovely edit. :D
1. Yeah, I think similarly: Dean meant what he said when he said it, but at the same time he did not at all WANT Sam to leave. And when he said he takes it all back, he wasn't really taking it back, but at the same time he was relieved and happy that Sam chose to stay with him.
I'm pretty much with you on 2 & 3. :)
4. I agree with you and I also sort of love their fight at the beginning - I mean, it's completely heartbreaking, but I enjoy the emotion/drama of it and it's not so bad, knowing that they're going to be okay by the end of the episode.
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Dean...no. I gotta find Dad. I gotta find Jessica's killer. It's the only thing I can think about.
DEAN
Okay, all right, Sam, we'll find them, I promise. Listen to me. You've gotta prepare yourself. I mean, this search could take a while, and all that anger, you can't keep it burning over the long haul. It's gonna kill you. You gotta have patience, man.
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2. It seems to me that Sam is right that when Mary died Dean was very young, he still could not experience the emotions that you experience from the loss of a loved one in adulthood. I think Dean got it, so he asks at the end "Where to take you", he is sure that Sam will leave.
3-4. I really like the last conversation between them. Sam kind of agrees with Dean, and Dean is ready to accept Sam's decision.
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2. That's a good point, that there's a difference experiencing loss as a child as compared to an adult. Whatever the differences, Dean's carried this trauma with him most of his life, and it's still something he deeply feels, but not the raw pain of a recent loss.
3-4. The end scene conversation is so wonderful. Sam is staying, and their bond is strengthened.
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1. Yeah, I think similarly: Dean meant what he said when he said it, but at the same time he did not at all WANT Sam to leave. And when he said he takes it all back, he wasn't really taking it back, but at the same time he was relieved and happy that Sam chose to stay with him.
I'm pretty much with you on 2 & 3. :)
4. I agree with you and I also sort of love their fight at the beginning - I mean, it's completely heartbreaking, but I enjoy the emotion/drama of it and it's not so bad, knowing that they're going to be okay by the end of the episode.
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