fuck Boston.

[cascadianista]

Boston isn't doing anything to maintain its standing with me. Of course, it's Boston, so the fact that I'd even expect it is ludicrous

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[slit]

This is the rudest place I've ever visited, much less lived. It has such a cozy Old World intellectual reputation. I don't know why. New York is so much more convenient, and friendlier, too.

I'm glad you mentioned the cab thing. I missed a job interview once over that shit.

[cascadianista]

I know. A few years back I had this impression of New Yorkers being all in your face and rude, but the exact opposite is true. Bostonians are rude and fuck with people and New Yorkers could give a shit less, in general. And, of course, the convenience factor is nonexistent if you don't live in a core neighborhood.

I was cursing all the way to the T. Thanks for the hospitality, though. :)

[artemii]

dude! why didn't you tell me you were in town?

[cascadianista]

I was in town for about 40 hours, give or take.. I've missed a number of people on this trip at every stage. :/

Actually I now doubly want to visit you the next time I'm around for a nontrivial amount of time, to see if your area can redeem the city in my mind, but I wouldn't hold out hope.

[artemii]

well, i adore my part of the metro area but i know it's not for everyone. boston's got its good and bad points, like anywhere else. with how much more you want to socialize, though, i'm not sure it would be the best place for you right now. it's still losing people in their 20s and 30s in droves, as it's been doing for at least a few years now. three more of my friends in that category are leaving for the west coast this year.

[cascadianista]

Let me guess: Portland.

[whydavid]

I was more afraid to cross the street in Boston than I was in London.

[cascadianista]

I never left LHR in London, but those six-way intersections scattered around Boston are pretty hair-raising. That's not really the city's fault, though, since it's part of the "old city" thing.

The infamous lack of decent signage, however...

[slit]

There are plenty of older cities in the Eastern Hemisphere and they all manage to come up with some decent urban planning. Boston is just lazy.

[cascadianista]

Maybe they're less afraid to bulldoze people's homes and shit. I think that's probably a lot of what it's about in Boston. People just built whereever a couple hundred years ago and then the city didn't do much imminent domaining.

[je5s]

Actually, the bars close at 2:00am, which makes closing the T at 12-12:30 all the stupider. Granted it's probably what keeps the cab business afloat, but the T really needs to run until 3 in order to make the whole thing make any sense. I'm lucky enough to live within (longish, but that's ok) walking distance of many of the places I'd be likely to go to in the summer, but I don't want to think about how much I end up dropping on cabs in the winter.

Also, it's ridiculous now that there's only one 24 hour restaurant in the city, especially considering the number of college students here. I can't for the life of me understand that one.

[cascadianista]

They must have either changed a state law recently, or the other few towns I've been to bars in in Mass (mostly on the Cape, and in/near Amherst) all have local ordinances limiting it to 1am.

Shutting down the T at midnight is unconscionable. As for the 24 hour restaurants and such, it's all permitting. Back during the Democratic convention (I think), Menino's office refused all kinds of special temporary permits for places to stay open late to accommodate the thousands of conventiongoers, and he went on TV saying garbage about "tradition." I've got news, mumblekins, it's the 21st century.

[je5s]

It must be a locally controlled thing, since in Boston it's definitely 2am. Also, the tradition bit is ridiculous, at least for non-bars, since there used to be an IHOP in Kenmore, the Deli Haus, and a few other 24 hour restaurants in the city that closed down in the last decade or so. Now it's just the South St Diner which is a pain to get to and always packed. They really need something in Kenmore again, since that's where so many students are, and I'm sure it would do well, but I guess something/someone is preventing it from happening.

[cascadianista]

I think actually there's one really seedy bar in Falmouth that has a 1:30 permit, so state law is probably 2am. As for there being ONE 24-hour restaurant in a city that size -- I guarantee it's permitting. They're just refusing permits for it, and for that they can kiss my ass.

I'm a night owl. Big time. I like being able to get a slice, or toilet paper, or a beer at 3am if I want, and I resent people telling me that I can't. In a city the size of Boston, it's not because places just aren't open, it's because people are denying it.

[fnfaldown]

In favour of, motion passed, onto new buisness.

Yeah, boston does suck.

Mass sucks too.

So does UMAss.

[cascadianista]

It was just made so apparent by going from Manhattan to Boston. blah.

I notice nobody has bit on my Red Sox bait yet though. heh

They do not!

[aj1a]

There..does that make you happy :-) lol.

So my vote is for San Diego. After visiting there I like it. It's got nice weather, a small city but also the suburban area which is cozy if you ask me. And everything I could possibly want. I can be a treehugger if I want or get dressed up and go to some "trendy, posh" bar. LOL *that was a dig on rye*. 2 KUDOS to San Diego!! :-)