Thanks so much for the rec - and I'd second frozen_delight's Swimming - it's beautiful. I admit on the first watch I was left wondering if Cain was really dead but agree with you on a second watch today - those crunching squelchy noises as the blade went in and was pulled out again were pretty graphic. I think on the first watch I was desperate for more Cain - I thought the whole idea of him culling the world was awesome, and could easily have run for a couple more episodes to give us the most menacing villain we've had for a very long time...but it wasn't to be.
And #5 - yep I thought that too - they seem to be going for season 3 parallels a bit this season too, don't they...
I wonder about Dean's immortality too, and I have a notoriously shitty memory. Dang.
Is it because with the Mark, if he dies he'll just return as a demon anyway? Or is it because Cain lived (peaceably) with his bees and the Mark, until the Winchesters and Crowley stumbled into his bucolic life, so we're assuming the Mark grants immortality against mundane disease and aging?
But on rewatch, I'm pretty sure he's dead. We didn't see it, but we certainly heard the Blade enter his body. And if Dean is aware of #1, there's no way he would leave Cain alive.
I think you're right, but I also feel like that cut away had to be concealing something. Working theory until bulldozed by Show: Cain said something significant with his last breath that we will find out about later.
(I could always stand to see more of him, but also I'd almost be disappointed if that wasn't his ending. Something about the way he bowed his head at the end there, how you could see the core of resignation underneath the violence -- just perfect.)
Thank you so much for your kind rec, you're the sweetest! ♥
When I wrote my review, I said I wasn't sure why Dean confessed that he'd lied to Crowley, and that I thought he was going to kill him when he hesitated to give up the Blade. But while writing my drabble for this episode, when I was thinking about how Dean cut Crowley with words instead of with the Blade, it came to me (as I know it came to others already, but have pity on me, I'm slow). He can't kill Crowley. In Cain's prediction, Crowley is the first domino. It's Crowley and then Cas and then Sam. So Dean couldn't kill him even if he wanted to, but he had to get rid of him. Had to eliminate the temptation.As you already know, that was what I thought all along. Then again my passionate shipper's heart won't allow me to read Dean's words in any other way
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It's been mentioned before - by Michael in The Song Remains The Same, stated explicitly. Also they left in an oblique reference to Sam also being on Cain's list. Do you follow Robert Berens on twitter?
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I admit on the first watch I was left wondering if Cain was really dead but agree with you on a second watch today - those crunching squelchy noises as the blade went in and was pulled out again were pretty graphic. I think on the first watch I was desperate for more Cain - I thought the whole idea of him culling the world was awesome, and could easily have run for a couple more episodes to give us the most menacing villain we've had for a very long time...but it wasn't to be.
And #5 - yep I thought that too - they seem to be going for season 3 parallels a bit this season too, don't they...
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Is it because with the Mark, if he dies he'll just return as a demon anyway? Or is it because Cain lived (peaceably) with his bees and the Mark, until the Winchesters and Crowley stumbled into his bucolic life, so we're assuming the Mark grants immortality against mundane disease and aging?
I don't knooooow. *whines*
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I think you're right, but I also feel like that cut away had to be concealing something. Working theory until bulldozed by Show: Cain said something significant with his last breath that we will find out about later.
(I could always stand to see more of him, but also I'd almost be disappointed if that wasn't his ending. Something about the way he bowed his head at the end there, how you could see the core of resignation underneath the violence -- just perfect.)
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When I wrote my review, I said I wasn't sure why Dean confessed that he'd lied to Crowley, and that I thought he was going to kill him when he hesitated to give up the Blade. But while writing my drabble for this episode, when I was thinking about how Dean cut Crowley with words instead of with the Blade, it came to me (as I know it came to others already, but have pity on me, I'm slow). He can't kill Crowley. In Cain's prediction, Crowley is the first domino. It's Crowley and then Cas and then Sam. So Dean couldn't kill him even if he wanted to, but he had to get rid of him. Had to eliminate the temptation.As you already know, that was what I thought all along. Then again my passionate shipper's heart won't allow me to read Dean's words in any other way ( ... )
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