Comments | caranfindel: 10.04 Initial reaction: Maybe we both needed that time off

caranfindel

10.04 Initial reaction: Maybe we both needed that time off

Oct 29, 2014 09:32

Having very low expectations for this episode turned out to be a good thing, as it often is, because it left me pleasantly surprised.

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cassiopeia7 October 29 2014, 15:53:46 UTC

*hugs this post*

I presume he’s going to slide back into S9’s Mark!Dean, which is kind of a disappointment. If we’re going to have a bad version of Dean, I much prefer Demon!Dean. Mark!Dean was just a dick with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Demon!Dean was a dick, but he also had redeeming qualities (OH SO MANY OF THEM, I STILL SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THEM).Oh, my goodness, THIS. Demon!Dean is much more likeable, funny, hot, and, well . . . Deanish. ;) I know that Jensen himself said that demon!Dean was "gone," but I'm still holding out hope. The writers made an awfully big thing about how the demon "cure" got rid of just enough demon for Dean to escape the devil's trap while leaving enough demon to do damage . . . plus the MoL demon cure wasn't designed for demons sporting the extra juice of the Mark, so maybe he'll be back. I'm sure hoping that super-powered demon!Dean is still hiding in there, biding his time ( ... )

manzanita_crow October 29 2014, 16:35:54 UTC

caranfindel October 29 2014, 16:48:16 UTC

I don't see how Sam created a monster by saving Dean. In all the family politics between our boys, people seem to forget that Dean was a Knight of Hell and therefore unkillable as well as uncontrollable. Sam may have done some bad things, but it wasn't just for the benefit of bringing DEAN back to humanity. The rest of humanity is safer too. If Dean doesn't make it, it was still worth the attempt for that reason alone.

I don't disagree with any of this, but look at what the show is telling us:

1. If you can't cure Dean, you have to kill him.
2. Dean isn't really cured. He can't go back to what he was.

No, Sam didn't create a monster, per se. But by letting Dean run around with the Mark, instead of killing him when he could have (as if, I know), he has unleashed something that I believe is going to become dangerous.

Although Demon Dean was a great deal more entertaining, I will admit :D

NO SHIT.

manzanita_crow October 29 2014, 17:26:42 UTC

Well, fair enough. MAYBE the demon killing knife would have worked. I don't see how though when they needed the First Blade and the Mark to kill Abaddon

caranfindel October 29 2014, 17:42:08 UTC

I assume that once he became mostly human, he was no longer unkillable. After all, the Mark wasn't enough to keep him alive when Metatron stabbed him.

Also... Continuity. Ha ha. Good one. ;-)

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thursdaysisters October 29 2014, 17:27:43 UTC

I agree that the opening with the Boys was gorgeous, relaxing with some beer by the water, then playing dress-up in their uniforms...

tifaching October 29 2014, 17:38:20 UTC

I may have replayed the bit where Dean says " did you see the thing in the paper?" about a million times because Jensen's Texas came out there. Shallow bits aside, I agree with your post completely. Demon Dean.....gimmee him.

frozen_delight October 29 2014, 18:02:55 UTC

Like you, I expected very little and was pleasantly surprised. Boys talking - TALKING! - in front of pretty landscapes, Sam being extraordinarily sassy and Sam being a complete badass taking out two werewolves with his arm still in a sling... Lots of love for all of that!

I'm looking forward to what happens with Dean. He's a little off his game, and I'm not sure if it's the guilt over being a truly fantastic knight of hell fighter, an after-effect of the cure which weakened him considerably, or the effect of the Mark which wants him to either kill-kill-kill or die. Possibly a combination of all three?

caranfindel November 1 2014, 23:17:30 UTC

I don't know, but it could be really good.