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canis_m

No one else wants to play acafan okay fine

Oct 11, 2009 16:14

Can anyone think of shoujo series or other by-women, marketed-to-women anime/manga (including BL, josei, and yuri) that have generated substantial fandom activity in Japan? By "substantial fandom activity" I mean not just discussion or attention but a decent body of doujinshi or other fanwork, fansites, etc. (edit: NOT limited to textual fanwork ( Read more... )

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chofi October 11 2009, 21:44:12 UTC

Magic Knight Rayearth? This is just me shooting in the dark. I know that doujinshi and fan sites are/were out there, but I don't know what the extent is/was.

skitty_kitty October 11 2009, 21:47:18 UTC

CLAMP works, um Revolutionary Girl Utena has a decent sized fandom, and Kaori Yuki's works tend to have a rabid following with regards to Count Cain. That's all I got on the top of my head.

canis_m October 11 2009, 23:14:47 UTC

Is there fanwork for Yuki Kaori's stuff, though, do you know?

skitty_kitty October 11 2009, 23:53:28 UTC

Like doujin, or just random peeps on the internet work? I couldn't say for the former, but the latter there is, or there was those many moons ago when I was more in it.

keelieinblack October 12 2009, 00:24:51 UTC

*threadjumps*

There are doujinshi but they're pretty rare these days--I bought a Count Cain dj from someone who owned 3-4 of them, and she said those were the only ones she'd ever seen for sale. I don't know if it's because it wasn't a big fandom to begin with, or if it's just the standard "older doujinshi are impossible to find" problem.

Also, I don't know about the J-fandom side, but while Count Cain still has a fair number of English fans, the actual number of fanworks is really pretty low.

tochira October 11 2009, 21:53:06 UTC

Nothing of CLAMP's? (Tsubasa: RC is the one I'm most familiar with in fandom terms, but it's not marketed as shoujo... although in many bookstores it's stocked in the shoujo section.)

The only series which comes to mind (with any certainty) is Kazuya Minekura's Saiyuki and/or Saiyuki Gaiden-- there's a whole rainforest's worth of doujinshi out there.

canis_m October 11 2009, 22:02:26 UTC

I haven't followed Tsubasa and honestly have no clue what the fandom landscape looks like! esp. in Japan. Other CLAMP stuff, I'm not sure--I could barely find X doujinshi in Japan in 2000-2001, and that's when the series was still running.

Saiyuki is a good call--that's another one I don't follow.

tochira October 11 2009, 22:48:48 UTC

Well, I know Tsubasa has a pretty huge following, doujinshi and all... I'm just not sure it would strictly count as shoujo? (Although the way it's shelved in bookstores would suggest that everyone feels they know better than Kodansha who's /really/ reading it, eheh.)

canis_m October 12 2009, 03:16:50 UTC

Consensus of flist experts seems to be that Tsubasa counts as by-women for-women despite flimsy shounen pretensions.

acchikocchi October 11 2009, 21:59:35 UTC

Yeah, to second the above commenter, the CLAMP oeuvre in general! I assume the TB/X fandom is relatively comparable in Japan to on the English-speaking internets, but I don't actually know - otoh CCS in particular inspired a truly ridiculous amount of doujinshi even some years after the fact, if the Mandarake shelves were anything to go by. *g* For that matter, there's an awful lot of 12K doujinshi as well... though as it was an anime adaptation does it count? You probably have a better grasp on Japanese 12K fandom anyway ( ... )

acchikocchi October 11 2009, 22:01:43 UTC

canis_m October 11 2009, 22:23:10 UTC

I have yet to discover a TB/X fandom on the J-internets, actually, and the doujinshi presence 9 years ago was virtually nil. CCS though, you're right, I'd forgotten about that!

12K I wasn't counting in this survey--because the J-fandom is fundamentally novel-based, not anime-based--although maybe I should be. It's by-a-woman, and I thiiink the fandom skews female, but at this point it seems to be marketed-to-everybody, sort of like HP. It's borderline, though.

Thanks, yeah, keep 'em coming if you think of more. XD;

aaand now that I've gotten started... acchikocchi October 11 2009, 22:49:22 UTC

Huh, that does surprise me, given the rather active fandom here around the same period! The more you know... Anyway, re: above mention of TRC: they definitely have the doujinshika wrapped around their little finger - same for xxxHolic. Not a huge fandom, in either case, but decent-sized! Thing is, TRC runs in a shounen and 'Holic in a seinen magazine... but is anyone really kidding themselves about the real target audience? XD ( ... )