STARGATE Meta & Picspam: Was Sha'uri a virgin when she met Daniel?

Aug 20, 2010 10:33

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lc59 August 20 2010, 23:36:17 UTC
And since you couldn't remember why you wanted to know whether or not Sha'uri was virgin then I don't think it matters much in the long run.
And yes I did enjoy the eye candy,thanks...can't help wishing that the original Sha'uri moved over to the show too...definitely preferred her over MS's bedmate.

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campylobacter August 21 2010, 02:22:59 UTC
I think my original thoughts might've strayed to whether Sha'uri had been a member of Ra's child harem (ew) but I guess I really didn't wanna go there. I have a feeling Ra discarded his "toys" once they grew too old for his proclivities. :-(

Or may I had been idly wondering if Daniel preferred virgins, but his choice of lovers during the series suggests otherwise.

OMG, I'd've been a fan of Stargate SG-1 from the very start if Mili Avital had been a cast regular, or even if the character Sha're (despite being played by Vaitiare Bandera) hadn't been abducted. I remember being disappointed that Sam was the only female regular, and was pissed that Catherine Langford was deemed too old to be an interesting regular cast member. Not until Vala showed up did I become a fan.

Speaking of MS's bedmates, I gained quite an appreciation for his wife after I saw a few episodes of Andromeda. Lexa Doig is incredibly talented and a pleasure to watch! He's a lucky man.

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lc59 August 21 2010, 02:31:06 UTC
Yeah but if Sha're hadn't been abducted there wouldn't have been a reason for Daniel to be on the team...not sure how that woulda played out...what would've persuaded him to come home?
I have to admit that I'd always thought that Catherine woulda made an interesting cast member...she wouldn't have been believable on a team because of her age but she coulda been a background character like Bill Lee.

So what's the deal with 'my favourite alien'?
Given up on it?

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campylobacter August 21 2010, 02:43:07 UTC
Heck, if I'd written the pilot, Catherine Langford would've been stranded on Abydos by the end of the episode, Sha'uri would be at the SGC with Daniel, Sam, Jack, & Teal'c, and Skaara plus the archaeologists Barbara Shore & Gary Myers would be hidden on Apophis's ha'tak trying to sabotage his evil empire.

I need to get crackin' on "My Little Alien", actually. I've been procrastinating. I just *knew* that I didn't wanna be an admin/project leader because of exactly this reason.

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oceania August 21 2010, 17:46:42 UTC
Not a virgin and here is why. The Abydonians are like the ancient Egyptians right? Sexuality in ancient Egypt was rather "free" for young people. They were expected to be monogamous only after marriage and seem to have the same predilictions towards adulatery as our society does. They liked sex. They had sex goddesses. Sex festivals. People tend to confuse the GREEK concept of the shy retiring virginal female with the rest of the ancient world. Not the case. Lots of fucking going on. Bi-sexuality was not however the norm in Egypt. Egyptian women were the most powerful of the ancient world and had the most legal rights. For example, they could seek divorce, own property, remain unmarried etc. Divorce laws are a clear indication when historians attempt to understand gender relationships. Greek women did not have that riight for example. Moreover, in addition to three female pharaohs, there is growing evidence to suggest that the pharaonic line was based on the "wives of god". The women of the royal family were god's wives ( ... )

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campylobacter August 21 2010, 23:57:50 UTC
Thanks! That took a lot of research! :-D

What sort of property/inheritance arrangements would the Abydonians have had as a slave culture? I assume that Ra would declare all possessions His for the taking, and perhaps transferred anyone's property to His favorites on a whim whenever He wanted to assert His Douchebaggedness.

For the sake of the plotbunny I had, I'd rather Sha'uri NOT be a virgin when she met Daniel, because I think would've given him performance anxiety the first time they "got busy". Daniel's got a thing for dominant women, anyway.

I like Tafkar's theory about Sha'uri being a widow, which wouldn't've been unusual in an oppressed society that had an overlord as evil as Ra.

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oceania August 22 2010, 00:21:47 UTC
Good point about the slavery and all the more reason for them to be celebrating life. I suspect that the writers expected us to interpret slavery in teh modern context of African American slavery. Slavery in teh ancient world varied vastly from state to state and slaves were usually captives from war. In the case of Ra, I think slavish devotion would be required and they would be kept at the "barely fed" level. Worked to death, beaten, abused. Slaves were often separated from their families, and not allowed freedom in terms of marriage. But they would be encouraged to breed. I think it's possible that she would have been raped by Jaffa early on. She would have to have been very strong indeed to have survived childnood and the kind of life she was leading. What if she's not a virgin but never been made love to? What if she assumes the position as expected by the Jaffa or Ra and "submits" to him. Daniel would not like that at all! He could be the first to "pleasure' her....grrrrr...me like taht idea.

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campylobacter August 22 2010, 00:36:42 UTC
Heh. That's an awesome smutbunny!

The more I speculate on Ra, and the more I watch the 1994 Movie, the more creeped out I get.

The TV writers really toned down the Goa'uld's villainy by not depicting the pedophilia for the series.

Plus, if Sha'uri and the other Abydonians (male & female; Ra liked them both) did have a history of sexual abuse, it really makes their liberation from him at the end of the movie especially poignant.

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archersangel August 30 2010, 04:18:02 UTC
you make compelling arguments for both. several people have pointed out that at her age (20? 22?) she should've been married already, maybe at 14 or 15. there are 1 or 2 fan fics around that say she was married, but to a much older man & was just his nurse/caretaker and it was never consummated.
now i'm wondering if her father was "saving" her for someone important.

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