Regarding Who reviews...

Apr 07, 2013 18:22

If you read my Who episode reviews, you probably know I prefer Moffat Who to RTD Who and when writing up an ep will often make comparisons between the two, generally speaking in Moffat's favour cause, heh, I think it's better. I also prefer Williams to Hinchcliffe and Lambert to Wiles. And while I don't tend to name classic producer eras (except ( Read more... )

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lil_shepherd April 7 2013, 17:53:18 UTC
Oh, blimey. I disliked RTD Who, Ten, Rose and Donna, and I am not backward about saying so on my LJ. I am happy to be disagreed with (a friend of mine can be relied on to moan that all of new Who is dreadful the instant it is mentioned.) However, I have my reasons and you have your reasons and he has his reasons and all of them can be argued with some validity. I love your Who posts even when I disagree with them and think it would be a great shame if I agreed with you all of the time.

Disagreeing is fine. Telling someone to stop writing something is not. Period. As far as I am concerned, that's close to a comment banning offence...

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calapine April 7 2013, 17:55:22 UTC
Not to stop writing, but to stop comparing stuff in Moffat Who to stuff in RTD Who where it reflects negatively on RTD. No mention if it's okay to go "Moffat that was shit, RTD did it better."

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lil_shepherd April 7 2013, 18:46:25 UTC
I don't, to be honest, see the distinction. This commentator is telling you what to write/not to write. Fannish privilege at its worst.

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neadods April 7 2013, 22:00:21 UTC
Nobody gets to police your space but you. Period.

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nostalgia_lj April 7 2013, 18:09:41 UTC
the stuff I talk about is relevant, because it's the first changeover of companions in Mofftiem and of course I, and other people, are going to be comparing it to the collossal fuck-up of what happened last time.

YES THIS. It's absolutely inviting comparison to the point where I think we'd be missing something out not to say "gosh, this is much better than That Other Time."

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calapine April 7 2013, 18:28:32 UTC
No episode of Who is an island unto itself.

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nostalgia_lj April 7 2013, 18:29:01 UTC
Except Ghost Light.

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eve11 April 7 2013, 18:15:23 UTC
I always enjoy reading your reactions. Even if I don't post comments very much. :)

There are a lot of episodes where I go "I loved this!" and then proceed to take it down a few notches. This seems to be my default reaction for Moffat Who. And for most of RTD Who as well. It's always done under the auspices of the fact that I was entertained (and sometimes even somewhat enlightened!). If ever it gets boring I suppose I may drift away. Hasn't happened yet.

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ragdoll April 7 2013, 18:26:00 UTC
But surely you know that the only time that rule is allowed is when you're comparing Moffat!Who to RTD!Who and telling everyone HOW MUCH BETTER IT WAS IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN RUSSELL WAS IN CHARGE! *eyeroll*

It's ridiculous for anyone to think that you shouldn't (or worse can't) compare and contrast things to things what have gone before. That's how reviews generally are structured -- otherwise, you've got no standard to go by ( ... )

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calapine April 7 2013, 18:43:38 UTC
I stuck with SPN for about three years after I stopped enjoying it and House for two, so I get that "it's hard to give up" thing and, besides, back in the day GB was my online Who hangout.

It's ridiculous for anyone to think that you shouldn't (or worse can't) compare and contrast things to things what have gone before.

Because you're being bitter or bashing and making people who liked the stuff you don't unhappy. But I *am* bitter about the stuff that went on with Martha and it's not bashing, I'm not 'hating' for the sake of it, it's perfectly legitimate, reasoned crit saying why I prefer one to the other. And *I'd* be unhappy if I felt I wasn't honestly epxressing my views on my jounral. And of course it's relevant! One of my big fears was that Moff, too, was going to mess up the changeover and it'd be a bit silly to tlak about it and not compare and just...arg!

I should go watch Elementary and coo over Joan's outfits or something.

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eve11 April 7 2013, 19:56:18 UTC
and making people who liked the stuff you don't unhappy.

Yeah, that's their problem. Like you said, you're not going over to their journals and harshing their squee; you're writing about it in your space, and you are being critical, in the analytic sense of the word. Honestly, I'd say you don't even owe fandom that. There is no obligation to deconstruct one's preferences; it depends on why and how people want to interact with the show. I mean, scientifically speaking, there are facts, and then there are opinions about facts. TV critiques are mostly the latter. But I also think that it is possible within the shifting sands of subjectivity for one to defend against an attack of "you're just a hater" with evidence to the contrary, and I think you've got that argument covered pretty well.

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calapine April 7 2013, 20:13:00 UTC
Quite, hence my being rather annoyed.

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elisi April 7 2013, 19:22:33 UTC
I remember back in 'the good old days' [when RTD was in charge] and pretty much every review I read was a rant about how awful a, b, or c was. There was always something, and I did a lot of defending him back then, because I like the show, dammit. I even liked Tinkerbell!Doctor and EoT and everything. (Disliked 'Midnight' though, just to be the odd one out when everyone fell adoringly at his feet. Still dislike it, and for the same reasons.) I much prefer Moffat, but that's something else ( ... )

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