Over the fucking line...

Mar 25, 2013 16:04

Not liking a telly show is one thing, hating on a telly show is another, virulently hating on a telly show and despising everything about it and writing about what you hate at length is another and, heh, some of these things may not be fun for ppl who like the show and come across the hate, but they are legit ( Read more... )

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*de-lurks* masakochan March 25 2013, 17:10:40 UTC
I think I've seen some people saying it's more that he's got this "creepy thing with 'child grooming'"- and are talking like Moffat's already set up Clara's story line that she's going to "pine away for the Doctor"- and that it's going to be "another storyline where the Doctor 'imprints' on another young girl".

I have to say- I think I'd be impressed by how these chunks of the fandom are so entirely ready to hate based entirely on assumptions before the show has even started- if I weren't so disgusted by what the assumption is.

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Re: *de-lurks* eve11 March 25 2013, 18:12:07 UTC
Yeah, but "grooming" is a term that is applied to pedophiles. It's what they do. So if someone is using that term to describe the relationship, I'd say they were equating the relationship to a pedophile-victim relationship or at least to something that will eventually turn into such.

Which, as calapine points out, is ridiculous. It's like saying Mr. Rogers is a pedophile because he sings songs to kids.

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Re: *de-lurks* masakochan March 25 2013, 18:23:24 UTC
Ahh- okay. Thanks for explaining about the 'grooming' bit. Now I'm even more disgusted.

Exactly. Heaven forbid Moffat include children in show that's primarily a family/child's show, or that he use Matt Smith's cute interaction with kids as a way to draw young audiences in. /sarcasm

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Re: *de-lurks* eve11 March 25 2013, 18:38:54 UTC
Yeah, and if what calapine said, eg, the person was using the prequel as some kind of evidence that Moffat is a pedophile? I mean, What?

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lil_shepherd March 25 2013, 17:26:59 UTC
I can only applaud.

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ragdoll March 25 2013, 17:39:14 UTC
I'm with you. I can't tell you how many posts on GB we've had to clean up with that same b.s. in the past few days. The Doctor likes children and interacts well with them. It's as simple and innocent as that. Moffat is a dad, and likes to cater to his sons and their friends as a target audience. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT?! (or people who think otherwise)

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calapine March 25 2013, 18:29:13 UTC
Ugh. This is on LJ and there's no mod to clean up the mess.

It's wrong because everything Moffat writes is racist/misogynistic/homophobic, but apparently those accusations aren't enough anymore, so it's time to start calling him a paedophile, fucking hell.

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masakochan March 25 2013, 18:59:50 UTC
It's wrong because everything Moffat writes is racist/misogynistic/homophobic, but apparently those accusations aren't enough anymore, so it's time to start calling him a paedophile, fucking hell.

You just reminded me how I saw at least one person, on tumblr, start up the same disgusting argument by saying, "As much as I bitch and moan about Moffat being a sucky writer who reuses his same one-trick-pony plot devices over and over and over again "- which is making me think that some people are pretty much looking to be offended at this point, and are pulling straws over innocent scenes to make them look creepy and disgusting.

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dqbunny March 25 2013, 19:05:20 UTC
I was one of the ones to comment on GB in the "WTF, are you nuts?" vein? (I just started being more vocal on GB). I finally had to stop reading the thread because it was seriously pissing me off.

I agree that this is a Moff trope, but that's as far as I'll go. He did it differently. He did it well. The scene was sweet and will most likely never be referred to again.

I also like how these folks conveniently forgot that the Ninth Doctor spent an entire episode around Rose as a baby.

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shannonsequitur March 25 2013, 17:40:54 UTC
calapine March 25 2013, 18:29:55 UTC
Sry, replied to wrong comment there.

This is on LJ.

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elisi March 25 2013, 19:27:27 UTC
And they say Fairly Tales aren't true. I give you the beginning of Hans Christian Andersen's Snow Queen:

FIRST STORY. Which Treats of a Mirror and of the Splinters ( ... )

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