reaction: Supernatural 5.07
Reaction shorter than usual because the end of the month is my hell. Also contains an excess of shillelagh.
Spoiler and Theorizing Timeline
-Sep 12 - Jim Beaver's Twitter. Responded to a query about kilts and wedding dresses being a fashion in Vancouver before I realized. OMG, Jim Beaver's in Vancouver. D'oh. So, from the two tweets I saw before my brain woke up and ran away from Twitter for the duration of filming, he's working in Vancouver today, so that means Bobby will be in episooooode... what, 5.07? 5.08? Possibly with a guest star by the name of Chad Everett, as he was mentioned too. Or maybe he's the director. Not sure, but he's apparently very energetic for his age. I am oddly not that upset about finding this out. Something about it being straight from Jim Beaver makes it easier to take. :-) Also YAY BOBBY! \o/
-Oct 11 Title of 5.07(?) "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester" I haven't seen the movie being referenced, but I know it's about a guy who ages backwards or something... OMG, Canon de-aging? It has to be. It totally fits with the arc this season, the whole trust and being equal partners thing, Sam and Dean's age-roles have to be reversed. While I'd love it if it was the other way around and we had Jensen and Colin Ford in scenes together, that wouldn't help the character development arc because it would reinforce Dean's sense of responsibility. If we get re!wee!Dean being a kid, ooo, and having a lack of responsibility and Sam getting that weight of having someone smaller than him needing protected and, omg. All the possibilities that have been explored in fic with this scenario. OMG. *grabby hands for episode* Hey, given the episode before it's title is something about children, and it's just before a mini-hiatus, I wonder if Dean will get de-aged at the end of 5.06. OMGYAY! [post 5.06 addendum: even though I was totally wrong about that last bit]
-Oct 12 continuing from fic spoiler. So! If it's the Trickster in 5.06 [post 5.06 addendum: or even though it wasn't], he totally fits, because he's tried to circumvent the repeating spiral the boys are on in the past, with Mystery Spot, and the best way to short circuit the trust issues the boys are having that are preventing them working together as an equal team is to turn Dean into a little kid. It fits. *nods*
-Oct 20-somethingth From somewhere. Dean's getting older. So, Dean finds a grey hair, Dean gets aches and pains, Dean wakes up much older. Depending how much older, this could have the same caretaker reversal effect as making Dean really young for the Sam and Dean dynamic. Hm. Even though I was wrong about "Children are our Future" being a Trickster gig, this could still be. Oh. Hey. Wow. How freaking awesome would it be if Jensen Ackles' DAD played older Dean? I mean seriously! That would so rock! Although I suspect if he was there'd have been a casting spoiler explosion about it. But that would totally rock. *grins sappily*
-Oct 29 Pre-ep promo. Poker?? What the heck? o.O
Reaction and meta-bits for Supernatural 5.07 - "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester"
(There's some angst going on on Vampire Diaries, it seems.)
-WEEKLY WORLD NEWS!!!! \o/ Hee! Is that a sign I'm right about the Trickster?? *bounces*
-Did anyone expect, when the guy-who-will-be-dead-before-the-title-card leaned over the sink, for him to start spitting out teeth? *raises hand* I mean that happens to the aged too, right? and this show loves teeth.
-They're with the CBC??? No, no, CDC. My TV was fuzzy. Though if they were pretending to be from the CBC, they'd need cheaper suits, random hockey references and a two-four of Molson each. Maybe a Newfie accent.... And now I'm seeing Rick Mercer as a lost Winchester relation. I think there may have been hallucinogens in my frozen pizza. o.O
-Hey, it's the corpse drawer cam! \o/
-"I'm just weepin' in my Haagen-Daas, idjit." Hee. And then the slow lonely pullback. Nawwwww, Bobbeeeeeee. Bobby still needs a shillelagh, dammit!
-Darn. No Alan Ackles in the cast listing. Darn. Oh well. I see Chad Everett, so I'm guessing he'll be doing older!Dean. *adjusts spoiler timeline*
-Next vic up is an ex-Marine golfer, picture is from June 2009. Must pause on receipt later [Rewatch:
[He likes "Madame Lin's Golden Palace" and dropped $250-odd there after taxes on.... Crap. No date. Art department is getting wise in the ways of the moebius-strip timeline the show sometimes seems to have. No date means nothing to contradict. *nods*]
-Teleplay by Sera Gamble, hm? Written by Sera Gamble and... Jenny Klein? Who's she? [Rewatch: Google reveals nothing conclusive]
-Hee! Faces!
-Director Robert Singer. *nods*
-Whoa, whoa, whoa. The guy has an Irish accent? Heheh. You know this means I am not going to be shutting up about Bobby's shillelagh any time soon.
-Oh... crap. Bobby? Don't go doing foolish things.... Bobby...? O.O
-Who the hell is Ben? One of the vics? Heh. Ah. Ben Franklin is Dean's bald friend Ben. I don't watch enough things where people are bribed in US currency, apparently.
-"Brains trump legs." Yay Bobby! And of course he got there (wherever there is, did we get a location?) in under an hour in a paraplegic-rigged vehicle. He's Bobby, he's awesome and needs no explanation.
-What?? Dammit Bobby! Bobby's got some major coping issues. He really needs that shillelagh. *nods*
-(Smallville ad: WHAT???)
-It's the Irish guy! Maybe he'll get Bobby a shillelagh after Dean gets Bobby's years back. Which better be fast because the previous dead guy didn't seem to last too long.
-Hee, 'ah yes, good to see you' after seeing the gun. I kind of like the Irish guy, even though he's supposed to be the bad guy and all. He's perky and charming and sly and stuff.
-Okay. Dean. I realize you're saying 'man-witch', but I'm hearing Manwich and it's threatening to make me snorf club soda. The guy's just a witch. If you wanted to insult him (if he were a wiccan witch and not more likely another weak-minded fool duped by a demon as the 'witches' on this show have been so far) you'd do it by calling him a warlock.
-"It's barely linty." I love this guy!!
-"I like the cut of your jib." Geez, he sounds like an RPG character I used to play. Same level of accent badness.
-Ooo. 25 years to Bobby, and cash him out. Ooo. Oh Dean.
-Ouch. Loss of 50 years will make Dean 80. Weeeelll... I know a few spry 80-year-olds.
-Ah. Chad Everett I presume? I really do wish they'd gotten Alan Ackles to do this. That'd be cool. This guy doesn't look 80. Also not much like Dean, (haircut's wrong or something) although he's doing a decent job at most of the delivery and mannerisms. Also, Jensen got about a week's vacation if his older self is swapping in so soon, because I doubt this is getting fixed before the last minute. I hope he had a really great time!
-*gives up taking notes and hee's at everything. Especially this eyebrow*
Hee!
-"SHADDUP SAM!" YAH! Older!Dean and Bobby snark rules.
-"You wanna keep emoting or you wanna talk about solving this little issue of yours?" Much giggling.
-"Every word." Ooo. Bobby's got eidetic memory! *makes notes for RPG purposes*
-Adorable and dangerous. Yep, that's Dean at any age. Or pretty much any Winchester, really. *nods*
-Chad Everett is doing rather decently with Dean motions and mannerisms, but I'm not even remotely about to mistake him for Dean.
-Ah, they're both in on it. What's up with the toothpick?
-He gave Sam the clap. Aaaaaarg. *facepalm*
-I kind of hope there's a load of Jared and Jensen screwing around with Jim Beaver and the wheelchair on this season's bloopers. Just the power-push up the slope there makes me think there was some hijinx potential.
-"It's about playing the other guy." *glees a little*
-Aw, Bobby. Tunnel-vision sucks. It's hard to see right now, but there is no tunnel, honey. You know what you need? A shillel- What? It's not my fault they made the bad guy Irish, okay?
-Ah, is she changing sides, or setting a trap?
-Ash??? Ash??? o.O That'd be cracked to hell wouldn't it, if this was Ash, not dead at the Roadhouse, but unnaturally aged about 40 years?
-So what makes this poker-witch guy decide who to let win and who not? *ponders*
-*rofls greatly* Older!Dean and Bobby grave-digging snark FTW.
-*nods* it's true, Sam is still being left at the kiddy table as far as Dean and Bobby are concerned. And something has to change that if there's going to be balance.
-And we are paying a ridiculous amount of attention to that toothpick. *ponders*
-Ooo. That thumb flippy thing Patrick's doing with the chips is a tad mesmerizing... Although the way he says 'Sam' is now sounding more and more like the way Frodo says it. Same accent.
-Ah. DNA. That's what's up with the toothpick. Except it's a total set-up. *nods*
-My god what a horrid accent Bobby has reading the... gaelic?
-Uh oh, hands on the side of the head after discovering a betrayal, are we getting another neck-snap? Nope. Hm. And now we have a significant locket.
-SAM WON! SAM ROCKS!
{{{SPEC-PHOBES BEWARE}}}
-Oh. Oh, hey wait. What if - and not to steal Sam's thunder here - but 'witches' in SPN-verse often get their powers as a result of being duped by demons in some way, right? Malleus Maleficarum, Great Pumpkin, etc. What if whatever demon Patrick's in thrall to passed the word down the line that Sam isn't to be harmed, since he's Big L's work suit. Word could go the other way too, and Patrick's demon tells Big L where Sam is... eeep.
{{{CLEAR FOR SPEC-PHOBES}}}
-Um Sam, there's a lot of chips there. After you take your stake of 25 out, and pass Dean his 50 (Heh heh. Or fifty four, to make you the same age since you want to be an equal partner, not that that would make a difference), there's gotta be some left to parcel out to Bobby? (Ooo. There's an AU. Sam wins enough to make Bobby the same age as him and Dean. Ooo. Or Sam's got too many years and turns Dean into a kid. Ooo. Loads of AU branches possible there.)
-Also, what about all the other vics??? You're gonna go finish that ritual after this, right?
-I do like Patrick though. I kind of hope he comes back. Or starts hanging around with the Trickster. Now there's two people that'd perpetually be a hatful of gin away from taking over the world.
-"I'll see y'all guys later." Hee! Sam said 'Y'all guys!' \o/
-"You'd never stop complaining." Quite likely, but that would be a good sign in Dean's case. A quiet Dean is a disturbed and hurting Dean, usually.
-OMG *flail* Family! Can't do this without you! *flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail* DEAN JUST ADOPTED BOBBY BACK YOU GUYS!!! \o/
-"Before we both start growing lady parts." Yes. Get out of that room. Get away from the wallpaper that starting to look disturbingly like stylized vaginas. It's just plain not right. o.O
-"Ironsides" hunh? Okay. I can handle that.
-Aw woobie Bobbeeeeeee!!! You'll be fine! Go find Patrick again, get him to explain how to make a shillelagh, and you'll be just fine. Or look it up! The basics are on wikipedia! You can improvise a crapload of spells on it!
*sigh*
(PLEASE, NO SPOILERS OR REFERENCES TO SPOILERY MATERIAL IN COMMENTS! The definition of spoiler for this journal is located in left hand sidebar and includes references to promo material as spoilers. Theory and speculation based on aired episodes only.)
Spoiler and Theorizing Timeline
-Sep 12 - Jim Beaver's Twitter. Responded to a query about kilts and wedding dresses being a fashion in Vancouver before I realized. OMG, Jim Beaver's in Vancouver. D'oh. So, from the two tweets I saw before my brain woke up and ran away from Twitter for the duration of filming, he's working in Vancouver today, so that means Bobby will be in episooooode... what, 5.07? 5.08? Possibly with a guest star by the name of Chad Everett, as he was mentioned too. Or maybe he's the director. Not sure, but he's apparently very energetic for his age. I am oddly not that upset about finding this out. Something about it being straight from Jim Beaver makes it easier to take. :-) Also YAY BOBBY! \o/
-Oct 11 Title of 5.07(?) "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester" I haven't seen the movie being referenced, but I know it's about a guy who ages backwards or something... OMG, Canon de-aging? It has to be. It totally fits with the arc this season, the whole trust and being equal partners thing, Sam and Dean's age-roles have to be reversed. While I'd love it if it was the other way around and we had Jensen and Colin Ford in scenes together, that wouldn't help the character development arc because it would reinforce Dean's sense of responsibility. If we get re!wee!Dean being a kid, ooo, and having a lack of responsibility and Sam getting that weight of having someone smaller than him needing protected and, omg. All the possibilities that have been explored in fic with this scenario. OMG. *grabby hands for episode* Hey, given the episode before it's title is something about children, and it's just before a mini-hiatus, I wonder if Dean will get de-aged at the end of 5.06. OMGYAY! [post 5.06 addendum: even though I was totally wrong about that last bit]
-Oct 12 continuing from fic spoiler. So! If it's the Trickster in 5.06 [post 5.06 addendum: or even though it wasn't], he totally fits, because he's tried to circumvent the repeating spiral the boys are on in the past, with Mystery Spot, and the best way to short circuit the trust issues the boys are having that are preventing them working together as an equal team is to turn Dean into a little kid. It fits. *nods*
-Oct 20-somethingth From somewhere. Dean's getting older. So, Dean finds a grey hair, Dean gets aches and pains, Dean wakes up much older. Depending how much older, this could have the same caretaker reversal effect as making Dean really young for the Sam and Dean dynamic. Hm. Even though I was wrong about "Children are our Future" being a Trickster gig, this could still be. Oh. Hey. Wow. How freaking awesome would it be if Jensen Ackles' DAD played older Dean? I mean seriously! That would so rock! Although I suspect if he was there'd have been a casting spoiler explosion about it. But that would totally rock. *grins sappily*
-Oct 29 Pre-ep promo. Poker?? What the heck? o.O
Reaction and meta-bits for Supernatural 5.07 - "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester"
(There's some angst going on on Vampire Diaries, it seems.)
-WEEKLY WORLD NEWS!!!! \o/ Hee! Is that a sign I'm right about the Trickster?? *bounces*
-Did anyone expect, when the guy-who-will-be-dead-before-the-title-card leaned over the sink, for him to start spitting out teeth? *raises hand* I mean that happens to the aged too, right? and this show loves teeth.
-They're with the CBC??? No, no, CDC. My TV was fuzzy. Though if they were pretending to be from the CBC, they'd need cheaper suits, random hockey references and a two-four of Molson each. Maybe a Newfie accent.... And now I'm seeing Rick Mercer as a lost Winchester relation. I think there may have been hallucinogens in my frozen pizza. o.O
-Hey, it's the corpse drawer cam! \o/
-"I'm just weepin' in my Haagen-Daas, idjit." Hee. And then the slow lonely pullback. Nawwwww, Bobbeeeeeee. Bobby still needs a shillelagh, dammit!
-Darn. No Alan Ackles in the cast listing. Darn. Oh well. I see Chad Everett, so I'm guessing he'll be doing older!Dean. *adjusts spoiler timeline*
-Next vic up is an ex-Marine golfer, picture is from June 2009. Must pause on receipt later [Rewatch:
[He likes "Madame Lin's Golden Palace" and dropped $250-odd there after taxes on.... Crap. No date. Art department is getting wise in the ways of the moebius-strip timeline the show sometimes seems to have. No date means nothing to contradict. *nods*]
-Teleplay by Sera Gamble, hm? Written by Sera Gamble and... Jenny Klein? Who's she? [Rewatch: Google reveals nothing conclusive]
-Hee! Faces!
-Director Robert Singer. *nods*
-Whoa, whoa, whoa. The guy has an Irish accent? Heheh. You know this means I am not going to be shutting up about Bobby's shillelagh any time soon.
-Oh... crap. Bobby? Don't go doing foolish things.... Bobby...? O.O
-Who the hell is Ben? One of the vics? Heh. Ah. Ben Franklin is Dean's bald friend Ben. I don't watch enough things where people are bribed in US currency, apparently.
-"Brains trump legs." Yay Bobby! And of course he got there (wherever there is, did we get a location?) in under an hour in a paraplegic-rigged vehicle. He's Bobby, he's awesome and needs no explanation.
-What?? Dammit Bobby! Bobby's got some major coping issues. He really needs that shillelagh. *nods*
-(Smallville ad: WHAT???)
-It's the Irish guy! Maybe he'll get Bobby a shillelagh after Dean gets Bobby's years back. Which better be fast because the previous dead guy didn't seem to last too long.
-Hee, 'ah yes, good to see you' after seeing the gun. I kind of like the Irish guy, even though he's supposed to be the bad guy and all. He's perky and charming and sly and stuff.
-Okay. Dean. I realize you're saying 'man-witch', but I'm hearing Manwich and it's threatening to make me snorf club soda. The guy's just a witch. If you wanted to insult him (if he were a wiccan witch and not more likely another weak-minded fool duped by a demon as the 'witches' on this show have been so far) you'd do it by calling him a warlock.
-"It's barely linty." I love this guy!!
-"I like the cut of your jib." Geez, he sounds like an RPG character I used to play. Same level of accent badness.
-Ooo. 25 years to Bobby, and cash him out. Ooo. Oh Dean.
-Ouch. Loss of 50 years will make Dean 80. Weeeelll... I know a few spry 80-year-olds.
-Ah. Chad Everett I presume? I really do wish they'd gotten Alan Ackles to do this. That'd be cool. This guy doesn't look 80. Also not much like Dean, (haircut's wrong or something) although he's doing a decent job at most of the delivery and mannerisms. Also, Jensen got about a week's vacation if his older self is swapping in so soon, because I doubt this is getting fixed before the last minute. I hope he had a really great time!
-*gives up taking notes and hee's at everything. Especially this eyebrow*
Hee!
-"SHADDUP SAM!" YAH! Older!Dean and Bobby snark rules.
-"You wanna keep emoting or you wanna talk about solving this little issue of yours?" Much giggling.
-"Every word." Ooo. Bobby's got eidetic memory! *makes notes for RPG purposes*
-Adorable and dangerous. Yep, that's Dean at any age. Or pretty much any Winchester, really. *nods*
-Chad Everett is doing rather decently with Dean motions and mannerisms, but I'm not even remotely about to mistake him for Dean.
-Ah, they're both in on it. What's up with the toothpick?
-He gave Sam the clap. Aaaaaarg. *facepalm*
-I kind of hope there's a load of Jared and Jensen screwing around with Jim Beaver and the wheelchair on this season's bloopers. Just the power-push up the slope there makes me think there was some hijinx potential.
-"It's about playing the other guy." *glees a little*
-Aw, Bobby. Tunnel-vision sucks. It's hard to see right now, but there is no tunnel, honey. You know what you need? A shillel- What? It's not my fault they made the bad guy Irish, okay?
-Ah, is she changing sides, or setting a trap?
-Ash??? Ash??? o.O That'd be cracked to hell wouldn't it, if this was Ash, not dead at the Roadhouse, but unnaturally aged about 40 years?
-So what makes this poker-witch guy decide who to let win and who not? *ponders*
-*rofls greatly* Older!Dean and Bobby grave-digging snark FTW.
-*nods* it's true, Sam is still being left at the kiddy table as far as Dean and Bobby are concerned. And something has to change that if there's going to be balance.
-And we are paying a ridiculous amount of attention to that toothpick. *ponders*
-Ooo. That thumb flippy thing Patrick's doing with the chips is a tad mesmerizing... Although the way he says 'Sam' is now sounding more and more like the way Frodo says it. Same accent.
-Ah. DNA. That's what's up with the toothpick. Except it's a total set-up. *nods*
-My god what a horrid accent Bobby has reading the... gaelic?
-Uh oh, hands on the side of the head after discovering a betrayal, are we getting another neck-snap? Nope. Hm. And now we have a significant locket.
-SAM WON! SAM ROCKS!
{{{SPEC-PHOBES BEWARE}}}
-Oh. Oh, hey wait. What if - and not to steal Sam's thunder here - but 'witches' in SPN-verse often get their powers as a result of being duped by demons in some way, right? Malleus Maleficarum, Great Pumpkin, etc. What if whatever demon Patrick's in thrall to passed the word down the line that Sam isn't to be harmed, since he's Big L's work suit. Word could go the other way too, and Patrick's demon tells Big L where Sam is... eeep.
{{{CLEAR FOR SPEC-PHOBES}}}
-Um Sam, there's a lot of chips there. After you take your stake of 25 out, and pass Dean his 50 (Heh heh. Or fifty four, to make you the same age since you want to be an equal partner, not that that would make a difference), there's gotta be some left to parcel out to Bobby? (Ooo. There's an AU. Sam wins enough to make Bobby the same age as him and Dean. Ooo. Or Sam's got too many years and turns Dean into a kid. Ooo. Loads of AU branches possible there.)
-Also, what about all the other vics??? You're gonna go finish that ritual after this, right?
-I do like Patrick though. I kind of hope he comes back. Or starts hanging around with the Trickster. Now there's two people that'd perpetually be a hatful of gin away from taking over the world.
-"I'll see y'all guys later." Hee! Sam said 'Y'all guys!' \o/
-"You'd never stop complaining." Quite likely, but that would be a good sign in Dean's case. A quiet Dean is a disturbed and hurting Dean, usually.
-OMG *flail* Family! Can't do this without you! *flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail* DEAN JUST ADOPTED BOBBY BACK YOU GUYS!!! \o/
-"Before we both start growing lady parts." Yes. Get out of that room. Get away from the wallpaper that starting to look disturbingly like stylized vaginas. It's just plain not right. o.O
-"Ironsides" hunh? Okay. I can handle that.
-Aw woobie Bobbeeeeeee!!! You'll be fine! Go find Patrick again, get him to explain how to make a shillelagh, and you'll be just fine. Or look it up! The basics are on wikipedia! You can improvise a crapload of spells on it!
*sigh*
(PLEASE, NO SPOILERS OR REFERENCES TO SPOILERY MATERIAL IN COMMENTS! The definition of spoiler for this journal is located in left hand sidebar and includes references to promo material as spoilers. Theory and speculation based on aired episodes only.)