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gilda_elise March 7 2019, 14:24:06 UTC
So, probably not a very good movie? Though while I didn’t think much of the first book 📖, I did enjoy the movie.

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byslantedlight March 7 2019, 14:36:29 UTC
Oh no, like I say I expect it'll do well at the box office - it feels like it was written to be a movie from the start. It's got everything that Hollywood seems to expect...

I haven't seen The Martian movie yet, but I really enjoyed that book!

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thesmallhobbit March 7 2019, 14:27:32 UTC
Yay for a bingo!

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byslantedlight March 7 2019, 14:36:47 UTC
Yeay! *g*

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heliophile_oxon March 7 2019, 17:18:31 UTC
Sounds like it basically misses the defining quality and entire point of science fiction as a genre - the "what if"! What would it mean for society/us/me/people in general/X people in particular etc. etc. if this that or the other aspect of reality were different.

Seems like this author has done a bit of a "Flintstones/Jetsons" and decided that no matter what differences there are in the world, society is going to be fundamentally exactly the same - essentially completely unchanged from the tiny little slice of human civilisation that they personally are used to ... oh dear :-s

Sorry you had a disappointment, but it was interesting to read your breakdown of why and how it fails to measure up :-)

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byslantedlight March 8 2019, 13:29:40 UTC
Well, it focuses on the what if that the author - as a man - is presumably most interested in. I guess it was clear from The Martian that he liked the hard science of things (which is cool) - but ignoring society/people/relationships etc. is rather problematic...!

Hee for Flintstones and Jetsons - yes! It did feel rather like that. *g* And I guess my tolerance for it has worn rather thin. We should have been seeing changes - even gradual improvements by now, and it's so depressing to find that nothing has happened really since the 1980s... *sighs*

And hee - I'm glad you didn't mind my rambling! *g*

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ariss_tenoh March 8 2019, 04:05:50 UTC
It sounds like a book written by a white male author unaware of his societal privilege....

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byslantedlight March 8 2019, 13:31:23 UTC
Well yes, I suspect so - although the acknowledgements show that he had the book "female-checked", and he did actually make an effort to include female characters who weren't entirely stock-screaming-girlfriend material, so he seems to be aware of something on some level... but not interested in addressing (or perhaps able to address) it in any depth, sadly...

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ariss_tenoh March 9 2019, 03:45:38 UTC
Science fiction written by women is more interesting in my opinion. They know how to push the boundaries of the genre.

I think it's difficult for men who've never faced discrimination to write about it. I've just finished reading a 72 volume manga series by a Japanese author who was really clueless about women, even though he claimed he had his wife check some things for him. *sighs*

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stellar_raven March 9 2019, 19:01:03 UTC
I have the audiobook of this one, but haven't read it yet. I also read The Martian via audiobook, too.

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