I watch TV that isn't TVD sometimes...

[butterfly]

So, I'm actually keeping up with a few different shows. I'm not watching them all in real-time, but I'm more or less caught up on several:

Supernatural -- On balance, I'm having a great deal of fun. I went into the show expecting it to be as problematic as it was when I left in S4 and it's actually a bit better, especially with women and queer

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[masqthephlsphr]

Do what I do re: OUAT. Stick to your flist.

[butterfly]

Probably wise!

I was just dealing with someone who said that because no characters in S1 called Regina abusive (for gaslighting Henry), that means that interpreting her that way is invalid.

[masqthephlsphr]

Emma did, especially in the first few episodes of the season.

[butterfly]

Elementary is so, so great! I'm not really inspired to post much about it, but it's my happy place every week. The character work is awesome.

Yep. It's just such an enjoyable show.

Sadly I'm kind of out of touch with OUaT these days...it's still fun, but I find myself a little bored, which is a pity. :/ I'm probably going to stick it out to the end of the season, though, because I'm still invested in a couple of the characters.

I'm hoping that Hook will leave/get killed off soon. He's so smarmy. I mean, the other characters all realize this, which is what saves it for me, but it's like he can't have a single conversation with a woman without bringing in icky and unwanted sexual innuendo. Basically, I feel like any other character would be a more worthwhile use of screen time than Hook.

[amproof]

I would like to know more of your thoughts on Dean!

[butterfly]

Oh, goodness, this could get long!

So, Dean Winchester is super-repressed in all kinds of ways because of the issues instilled into him by his dad and the hunting community. And the three ways that he's most repressed, from what I can see, are in his geekiness, his gender expression, and his sexuality. All of these things are, notably, things that he has projected onto Sam -- he's always calling Sam a geek when it's Dean who makes and gets obscure Star Trek references, etc.; he calls Sam 'a girl' and implies/says that Sam likes wearing women's underwear when it's actually revealed in 5x04 that Dean is the brother who has tried on and liked wearing "pink satiny panties"; and he deflects similarly about interest in men.

So, anything that Dean levels at Sam as an insult is probably something that Dean believes is true about himself but that he's not prepared to admit (one particularly obvious example is near the end of S6, when Dean calls Sam Cas's "Lois Lane" when it's obvious to everyone that if anyone serves that role for Cas, it

[amproof]

Very interesting! Something to think about for sure. Thanks bb!

[butterfly]

No problem! And Misha was just confirmed as a regular for S9, which is exciting (and he's directing an episode!).

[queenrikki_hp]

Since OUaT is kind of the only show I watch (though I'm slowly catching up on Elementary), I'll talk about that. The show fills me with joy and luvs it. The fandom makes me think that I have fallen into some warped alternate reality. Someone actually thought that Regina was a good parent. Which she isn't. She's terrible and not especially self-aware. There are of her fans who think that she can do no wrong, when the actual text of the show says otherwise.

I want Hook to die in all of the fires. He's disgusting and I want people to stop shipping him with, honestly, anybody (but especially Emma). I will be so happy if he dies.

[butterfly]

Yeah, the fandom is just... baffling at times. Obviously, Regina must have been a good mother because Henry was totally happy pre-series! It was all that evil MM's fault for giving Henry the fairy tale book that made Henry turn on Regina!

I want Hook to die in all of the fires. He's disgusting and I want people to stop shipping him with, honestly, anybody (but especially Emma). I will be so happy if he dies.

He's entirely made of sleaze.

[dreamingahead]

The way The Following's triangle was resolved as a threesome bothered me; I was hoping for something more among the lines of Emma going ballistic over being Jacob's "beard" ever since he & Paul returned from their pretend marital bliss, idk. This feels like sweeping the issue under the rug to me.

Aiden has always felt like a third wheel to me on Revenge. I don't really see why he's necessary when Emily already has Nolan, especially since he keeps Nolan out of the central storyline for the most part. It was great to see Emily & Nolan working together again to try & save Jack & (sob) Fauxmanda. Really sad to see her go, especially because of the reasons she had to (to push J/E again even though half the audience is less than enthused about them).

[butterfly]

The way The Following's triangle was resolved as a threesome bothered me; I was hoping for something more among the lines of Emma going ballistic over being Jacob's "beard" ever since he & Paul returned from their pretend marital bliss, idk. This feels like sweeping the issue under the rug to me.

Yeah, it oddly made it look like Paul and Emma's issues with each other were just sexual tension which... does not seem accurate. I'm also in the "stick three killers together in a box = things not going well" camp in general, though.

Aiden has always felt like a third wheel to me on Revenge. I don't really see why he's necessary when Emily already has Nolan, especially since he keeps Nolan out of the central storyline for the most part. It was great to see Emily & Nolan working together again to try & save Jack & (sob) Fauxmanda. Really sad to see her go, especially because of the reasons she had to (to push J/E again even though half the audience is less than enthused about them).

Yeah, agreed.