And guys, Gwen and Rhys were having a typical married couples argument. It wasn't Rhys knocking her down like he deserves (why are women the only ones who get bashing like this?)
And as for Gwen disobeying Jack and being a bad employee - dude, I think that he lost all right to act like Torchwood is a typical job by Cyberman. In fact, he has since he manipulated Tosh and Owen to join him and built up Torchwood three in the Doctor's honor. These guys are more a family than anything else, and characters need to be judged that way. Or, if you're not, then don't just bash Gwen for things like that.
And wtf on the idea that Ianto was teaching Gwen a lesson. He was attempting to help her. And I say that Ianto and Jack not having a fallout is IC because it seems to take a cyberized girlfriend in the basement to make either of them deal with anything.
....I suppose I have read one too many fics labeled it Gwen and Ianto and I was hoping for friendship fic and got agenda bashing fic.
Particularly the last two -- everyone ignores Jack half the time and Ianto clearly likes Gwen. They're friends. Why is friendship such a hard concept for this fandom to grasp?
Exactly. Fandom would have gone crazy about what a terrible person she is if she'd decided not to tell Nikki. And it's not as if Gwen even knows about the 20-hour screaming jags, because Jack - presumably because he's manipulating the whole thing and is hoping it turns out exactly the way it does so she'll stop bothering him - doesn't mention that. I do like to think that once she's had more time to process it, Nikki would decide that having Jonah, even a very damaged Jonah who's only lucid a few hours a day, is still better than spending the rest of her life not knowing.
Indeed! But Gwen is supposed to know to ask about the screaming. Because it's not at all on Jack to tell her -- she's supposed to know to ask.
I do like to think that once she's had more time to process it, Nikki would decide that having Jonah, even a very damaged Jonah who's only lucid a few hours a day, is still better than spending the rest of her life not knowing.
I do hope so, because when he is lucid, he's going to be missing and wanting his mother so badly. Before Gwen got there, he didn't even really believe that he'd made it back home!
I do hope so, because when he is lucid, he's going to be missing and wanting his mother so badly.
I felt completely broken up for Jonah, because parent/child relationships are what really get me, especially when you've got a previously loving parent rejecting the child.
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And guys, Gwen and Rhys were having a typical married couples argument. It wasn't Rhys knocking her down like he deserves (why are women the only ones who get bashing like this?)
And as for Gwen disobeying Jack and being a bad employee - dude, I think that he lost all right to act like Torchwood is a typical job by Cyberman. In fact, he has since he manipulated Tosh and Owen to join him and built up Torchwood three in the Doctor's honor. These guys are more a family than anything else, and characters need to be judged that way. Or, if you're not, then don't just bash Gwen for things like that.
And wtf on the idea that Ianto was teaching Gwen a lesson. He was attempting to help her. And I say that Ianto and Jack not having a fallout is IC because it seems to take a cyberized girlfriend in the basement to make either of them deal with anything.
....I suppose I have read one too many fics labeled it Gwen and Ianto and I was hoping for friendship fic and got agenda bashing fic.
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Particularly the last two -- everyone ignores Jack half the time and Ianto clearly likes Gwen. They're friends. Why is friendship such a hard concept for this fandom to grasp?
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I do like to think that once she's had more time to process it, Nikki would decide that having Jonah, even a very damaged Jonah who's only lucid a few hours a day, is still better than spending the rest of her life not knowing.
I do hope so, because when he is lucid, he's going to be missing and wanting his mother so badly. Before Gwen got there, he didn't even really believe that he'd made it back home!
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I felt completely broken up for Jonah, because parent/child relationships are what really get me, especially when you've got a previously loving parent rejecting the child.
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