Shakespeare and Bon Jovi in the same post! YES.

Sep 03, 2010 14:37

Friday Post Into the Void:

- china_shop and I managed to exhaust not one, but TWO of the cordless phone handsets in my house last night, over the course of a conversation. China: "I feel so accomplished!" ♥ ♥ ♥

- My BFF and her newly-minted hubby are here for the weekend, and we all braving PAX. Not really my corner of fandom, but still fandom, so it ( Read more... )

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troyswann September 3 2010, 21:50:21 UTC
Slash aside, do these scholars even have friends?

Word. Tillyard was quite upset and assured readers that this was a case of Shakespeare losing his grip on the drama and frothing poetically at the mouth. The 'mature' Shakespeare should know better, y'all, Tillyard sez. And I'm thinking, um, Tillyard, I think that there's a number of perfectly understandable reasons, one of which is he's really really really upset that his best friend of yore has fricking tried to KILL HIM. Also, they were totally doing it.

Also, Hai!

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brynnmck September 3 2010, 22:16:00 UTC
And I'm thinking, um, Tillyard, I think that there's a number of perfectly understandable reasons, one of which is he's really really really upset that his best friend of yore has fricking tried to KILL HIM. Also, they were totally doing it.

I can't say fairer than that!

HAI! Are you having fun?

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troyswann September 3 2010, 22:20:37 UTC
Hi! I am having fun, I think. I'm going to be meeting someone for dinner in half an hour so that will be good. Today I went to the library and photocopied things and read things and was an excellent "historical tourist." :)

Still, I think you should have stowed away in my bag.

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brynnmck September 3 2010, 22:39:25 UTC
Excellent! Though yes. I also think that the stowing-away was the wiser plan. :)

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llassah September 3 2010, 21:52:28 UTC
Darn, that is some angst- I can see I'm going to be cracking open my Henry V again... And nope, scholars have no friends, only books. I love the symmetry of the Falstaff- Hal- Scroop thing, too. 'scool. (also, could send you a pdf of the article if you wanted)

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brynnmck September 3 2010, 22:35:25 UTC
I love the symmetry of the Falstaff- Hal- Scroop thing, too.

YES. I was thinking about that, too, as I was looking back on this, and--there's a lot going on there. I mean, here you have Hal, who (chronologically) fairly recently "betrayed" his own friends (albeit in a non-lethal way), all upset because someone has betrayed him. Yet the Falstaff betrayal is mitigated by the fact that Falstaff's motives were hardly pure to begin with, and hardly ended up pure, for that matter. It was really interesting the way they cut that in our show--they actually cut out most of the second Henry IV, so they skipped right from Hotspur's death (which Falstaff takes credit for, which is potentially a huge thing, as Hal is trying to prove himself to his father) and burial to Henry IV's death and Hal's coronation. So instead of having Hal hang out with Falstaff some more for an entire play, and then reject him, smooshing that all together made it seem a lot more of a mutual thing. And in the rejection scene, Hal was wearing this giant stole thing ( ... )

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china_shop September 3 2010, 23:15:21 UTC
*twirls us*

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brynnmck September 8 2010, 15:58:05 UTC
*beams*

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sdwolfpup September 4 2010, 00:30:31 UTC
This is really fascinating as someone who has very little Shakespeare background. The Henrys sound excellent. Maybe I'll watch the Branagh movie to dip my toe in.

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brynnmck September 8 2010, 15:59:00 UTC
Oooh, you should! Like I said, it's been a while (though I just rented it, so now I have to find time to WATCH it), but it's Branagh, so. They really are such wonderful plays.

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anonymous_sibyl September 4 2010, 01:21:39 UTC
Expect an email to brynnmck@lj email address from tldegray at gmail with the article.

I don't know what I'm going to do once I graduate and no longer have free and easy access to this stuff.

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brynnmck September 8 2010, 15:59:23 UTC
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!

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